You are both consciousness AND a "creation"

I find myself in the Ellis post, I am so spirtual to the point of being no earthly good.
I seem to attract polar opposites, people who are so earthly they are spiritually no good, thus causing irreconcilible differences.

I understand we all try to persuade and influence each other for a desired result, at the same time I feel I am being coerced into situations and have no choices at all.

Or if it is my choice and is labeled wrongly by others, it seems there is a real force of good vs evil. And it appears that evil is winning. I am not talking about the obvious, but the subtle. The toxic jerks and negative people, I understand you have to accept that others are that way, and to steer clear of it.

Some people have told me that mean spirited people don’t exist, it’s all in your head. Which makes me wonder if they are in denial. Can’t we all agree, that yes there are heartless, thoughtless people in the world?

Then again, once we do, then we have to make pragmatic decisons don’t we, want to work for a living, guess what, theres a good chance you will run into toxic people and if you want to keep your job, shut up or leave. If you want to keep your spouse shut up or leave.

Many times I chose to leave and felt freeing, yet when I get back into new situations, its just a different being, but the hassles are the same. It’s about as hilarious as it is tragic.

You can’t run to the Bible and escape or to anything or anywhere else, its all a matter of power trips, and persuading and influence and leverage peddling to where you want to go, be and do.

I feel your program is a great service to understand not only how we create our beliefs, but to understand human nature itself. It ain’t pretty and in some situations you just have to walk away. Choose your words carefully, and check yourself before you wreck your relations.

Thanks Morty.

I have a sticky note on my desk that says “What would I have to do today to make my day count?”. That is a very deep question on many levels. Count to whom? Me, those around me, and the Higher Purpose. It really comes down to what gives my life meaning.

I was brought up in the traditional Christian belief system. To make a r-e-a-l long story short, I woke up day while listening to the preacher and asked myself why do I believe anything he says? He’s no smarter or more spiritual than I am. Plus, is anything I think really true? That started years of researching the history of Christianity, the Bible, ancient religions, eastern religions, and religion within itself. I had to know where religion came from. It occurred to me all I have is a belief. I didnt want to be a “believer” – I wanted to be a “knower”. It took me a while to free myself from the labyrinth of religion and to see it for what it is.

It was a short leap from there to understand the whole of who I think I am is nothing but a belief within itself. I am a collection of ideas, concepts, interpretations of my world experience so far. But how much of it is “true”. And if I am nothing but a group of thoughts frozen in time we call beliefs, who am I – really? I knew I could step outside of myself and observe “me” from another perspective. The real me must be that one that is doing the observing.

I view beliefs as nothing more than thoughts frozen in time. To change the belief to me is about understanding where my original thought came from to begin with. As a silly example, consider the background color of this blog page. It’s white. But why is it “white”. The scientific mind would come up with with theory about light, but thats not the point. Its white because when we were all children our parents told us this color is white. And thats the only reason its white. Someone told us so. We attached a label to it. Heres the clincher – as long as we all say its white, everythings fine. Let someone that has a different view or is color blind says its anything but white and we have conflict on our hands. But its nothing but a label.

We drive on the right side of the road in the US and the Brits drive on the left side. Who’s right?

During my researching religion years, I discovered there are about 20,000 different Christian belief systems in the US. Who’s right? They all cant be or can they? Each one will vehemently defend their beliefs. So will any religion. I am an audio visual contractor that deals primarily with churches. I have seen’em dunked, sprinkled, and splashed. I have attended hundreds of various services in the process of installing A/V systems. Every church thinks they are “right” and every other one down the street is wrong about what they believe. Millions of peoples lives have been destroyed or ruined over the centuries in the name of God. Study the Inquisition. What a horrible period of history to live through. Beliefs are incredibly strong.

The point I’m trying to make here, is I realized my whole self concept was nothing more than “what they said” – what I took in as a child without any questioning of “is that true?” or some event I misinterpreted and attached a label to. I was living life on a treadmill someone else had built – this is who “we” expect and have trained you to be. It wasnt until I started examining my beliefs one by one that slowly I began breaking down my “reality filter” – the filter we all see life through. We all see what we expect to see which creates more of that for us to see. How many times have we seen that “unique” dress, outfit, car, or other thing, get it, only to see it everywhere later? It wasnt unique at all! We didnt see it before because we werent looking for it. Its work, or has been for me, to really “see”. Therein is where I really appreciate the tools Morty has built – tools to break down my beliefs so I can examine them more closely with objectivity.

B Ramakrishnan, I think you are right. The challenge to me is just to “be” and see what is here now. I remember reading where the Buddha silently raised a flower before a group of students and only one or so nodded at the understanding. The challenge too is to make this life useful. There is an expression “that person is so spiritual he is of no earthly good”. Sitting in the mountains being spiritual somehow doesnt seem to be useful LOL. So back to my original ponder, after waking up, choosing a new being choice, being free of religiousness, and “seeing”, – what does one do with this knowledge? We all cant simply stand or sit around in bliss anticipating the return to Oneness.

My favorite book in the Bible is Ecclesiastes because it pretty much sums it up – all under the sun is vanity – drink, eat and be merry. In other words, enjoy the ride but dont get attached to it! Dont fret the details LOL. What I have decided to do is find something every day that makes my life count in the betterment of someone around me while I enjoy the ride for myself. What gives my life meaning is what I decide it does. Its really that simple.

Hi Morty,

What a powerful piece, I love this because I personally identify it as the link between the all. Often I would use the link between sexuality and spirituality for example. There is this common fallacy that they are mutually exclusive and I spend my life seeing the link within the all and embracing it, so that each part has its place respectively.

I have shared this link with one friend in particular, who I feel will definitely benefit from these words. Only a few days ago I yelled in frustration, what is the point of meditating for 2 hours a day if you can’t even communicate! In the search for certain spiritual experiences that some may call enlightenment. It is very easy to lose yourself and get lost within the inside world.

I love that you are speaking of finding the balance. It is this balance that I continuously strive to attain for me it is Harmonic Wealth.

Thank you again.

Mr. Lefkoe,
I believe a major flaw in your theory is that we are not the creators of our lives. God is the creator. We are not a formless blob – a wave in the ocean. We are all unique creations – made as God chose to make us in his ultimate wisdom. We are, however, given free choice over how we choose to live and what we choose to do with what we are given. Our physical and spiritual beings begin and end with God – with prayer, with bible reading, and meditation on God’s word. That’s where we will find our answers. I think that is the missing ingredient in most self-help type of teaching. Why is it that people are willing to travel around the world to “encounter” the Budda, but won’t experience God in their own home?
Please anyone reading this, put God first and you will be amazed at the change in your life. “But seek first his hingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.” Matthew 6:33

I eliminated beliefs through the Natural Confidence program and participated in the Occurring Course. Since then(2010), my life has expanded, both as consciousness and the creation. When I was younger, I experienced something spiritual-like I was in a state of pure consciousness. Since then, I, too searched for that feeling again. The WAIR brought me to that state where I, once again, felt that connection and that I was part of something whole. Since 2010, my world has expanded, both as the creator and the creation. Morty’s metaphor of waves on the ocean is a great way to explain this relationship. At this time in my life, I am doing the Master Key System(halfway through) as a way to further expand myself in those ways. The best thing about WAIR and the LOP, is that I can always use them and they are always relevant instead of a “one-shot” deal.
@Jeff: my experience feeling Oneness occurred for me in the late 70s and I knew very little about Far Eastern religion. I felt part of something bigger than myself sort of like the hologram explanation of the Universe: we represent the universe and are a part of it as individuals. Actually, the Tao Te Ching explained this better than anything in the Bible. But I had the experience first, the I searched for a way to explain what I’d experienced. Hope this helps.

Hmm…isn’t this entire post just a rephrasing of Eastern/New Age “spirituality”? That’s obvious enough, but, it was framed in a non-religious context, when in my opinion it is.

“So who you ultimately are is formless, non-dual consciousness”

Uh…no. Well, maybe, but since I’m not a Buddhist or New Ager I don’t think along those lines. I think it’s a stretch to conclusively say something like this, especially in a spiritual (and not strictly personal development) sense.

I know this is an aside from the message of the post, but the overlap between actual Eastern and New Age religion with the self-help methods with Lefkoe have been a recurring issue for me. Any non-New Ager care to offer a perspective?

Thank you for your posts Morty. I have never found anything as perspective changing as what you do. The LBP has changed my life. I cant wait until I am in the position to work with natural confidence.

Thank you for this explanation Morty. It makes a lot more sense to me now about combining the two. I love the simplicity and the warmth your messages carry.

I love this Morty! It explains to me why people who earn their money via spiritual practice have a lot of trouble getting by in life. Not just financially…but also in a personal manner. Often when I meet people who are healers, there is often something wrong with them that is obvious to most people looking at them!

I myself agree with what you said about that whole state of escapism via spiritual practice. That state you described is called by some Subjective Reality. But I would say that it can be abused!

To me, Subjective Reality is not about becoming aloof and dismissing the world as an illusion! The fact that one is consciousness and a creator that manifests reality via perception and intention really brings home to me the importance of keeping ones beliefs in check.

Thanks Morty, I appreciate the value of this. I don’t have my complete act together, but things like these keep bringing it back to me and reminding me! It makes me feel like I’m guided somehow!