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There are two fundamentally different ways in which we can experience ourselves.
First, the way most of us usually experience ourselves: as a creation—a separate entity distinct from other entities, whose survival is always at stake. Some people call this the ego.
Second, as the creator of that creation—as consciousness, as Self, as non-dual awareness, as that which has always existed and always will exist.
The creation is experienced as an entity that is either “good enough” or “not good enough.” The creator, consciousness, Self is not experienced as someThing; rather it is a state of consciousness in which one experiences oneself as whole and complete, with nothing missing. On the other hand, because the creation is something specific, there is always something it is not, in other words, there is always something missing.
What is enlightenment?
Enlightenment consists of distinguishing yourself and then experiencing (as distinct from understanding) that you already are the creator, Self, consciousness—not merely the creation—it’s just that most people haven’t experienced it yet.
Therefore, transformation or enlightenment is not a place to get to; you are already there. And transformation or enlightenment is nothing more than (continually) creating that experience for yourself.
Why we need self-esteem
If we are going to experience ourselves as a creation, we need a high level of self-esteem. Why? Because when we experience ourselves as someThing whose survival is always at stake, we need to believe I’m able to survive (good enough, important, capable), and worthy of surviving. (Nathaniel Branden was the first person I know to point this out.) And a high level of self-esteem is more conducive to our survival than a low level of self-esteem.
But when you distinguish yourself as the creator of the creation (which you can easily experience with the “Who Am I Really?” Process), then a paradox occurs: you no longer need a high level of self-esteem (because your survival is no longer in question) and you experience yourself as whole and complete, as okay just the way you are, with nothing missing, anything is possible, and no limitations—which “feels like” a high level of self-esteem.
Although it is possible to change the creation (by eliminating our beliefs about ourselves, which changes how we act and feel)—the very fact of experiencing ourselves as a creation will necessarily result in experiencing something missing, some limitations, and, as the Buddha said: some degree of suffering.
Some suffering seems to be inherent in the experience of ourselves as a creation, an entity whose survival is always at stake. Let me explain why.
If some things are good for us (conducive to our survival), then other things are bad for us (a threat to our survival). And when we encounter anything that we consider to be a threat to our survival, we feel anxiety and suffer. Depending on our beliefs and who we think are, we can be threatened by people who are angry at us, not being liked by people, making mistakes, not reaching our goals—in other words, by anything that we consider “bad.”
In other words, when anything we consider ourselves to be (a good parent, a hard worker, a sexy person) is threatened, we feel anxiety because we think who we are is in danger of extinction.
When we experience ourselves as a creation with a low level of self-esteem, our lives become about acquiring self-esteem. We create survival strategies—which are substitutes for self-esteem—that run our lives, such as having people think well of us, taking care of others, or doing things perfectly. We think these survival strategies will make us good enough or important. Unfortunately, it’s an endless quest because they never really work, although they can ameliorate anxiety for the moment.
The Lefkoe Method has two purposes
This is why The Lefkoe Method has a two-fold purpose: to help you change your creation (for example, from not good enough to good enough) … and also to facilitate you to distinguish and then experience yourself as the creator of the creation.
As long as you have human form you probably will experience that that form’s survival is always at stake. But it is possible to transcend that experience and distinguish yourself as the creator at any time. In that transcendent state, you experience that you are the space in which reality and time show up, that you always were and always will be, and that survival is never an issue.
So although it is possible to minimize suffering by changing the creation (eliminating beliefs that lead to dysfunctional behavior and feelings), as long as you experience yourself as a creation, suffering is always lurking just around the corner. The best way to relieve suffering is to create yourself as the creator, as Self, as non-dual awareness.
An alternative method
There seems to be a second method that I’ve been exploring recently: to detach oneself from the dualistic world in which we live—to dissolve the meaning we impose on meaningless reality—and face reality stripped bare of all meaning. When the meaning is gone, anxiety and suffering will be gone too.
Suffering and any other unpleasant emotion are the result of adding the meaning: “bad for me” (as distinct from good for me)—to a meaningless event. That meaning causes the suffering. Human beings are always creating meaning because we need to know: good or bad for my survival.
So there appears to be two ways to relieve suffering: to experience yourself as the creator—as distinct from the creation, or to act very un-creation-like and dissolve all the meaning from events, to live totally in the moment. The Lefkoe Occurring Process was designed to do just that.
Please share any comments you have on these thoughts on enlightenment and how to relieve suffering.
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Dear Sam,
This was the paragraph in question.
“It is a verbose lesson. Just because there are many words in a post does not make it verbose. A spoonful of sugar has countless number of sugar crystals but in the final analysis, the amount of sweetness never exceeds the sweetness of another spoonful. So if you spend your time counting the number of crystals and not enough on parsing the meaning, all you get is the a dry number which only feeds your spite instead of getting the meaning which could have sweetened your life and more importantly, your disposition. This paragraph too has many words, but it will seem excessive only to a guy who cannot get the meaning.”
This is your non verbose version.
“A spoonful of sugar makes your medicine go down?
Cup runneth over with bombast?
Infinite inanity? Inane infinity?
The one who laughs last laughs the loudest?
Gobbledegook?
And rat’s farts! ”
3 Questions .
1. Do you comprehend English and what you are required to do ? You called my post verbose. And you prove you cannot get a simple exercise right which my 8 year kid can do in his sleep. Even he knows the difference between a post and a paragraph.
2. Show my post where I put this query to you to friends (if you have any left) ask them if they can discern any relation between the question asked and the answer you gave ? Ask them to post their verdict on this post.
3. Even if your reply was a summary of what you understood of what was in my previous post, look at that post again and your summary of it. Is this a reflection of your powers of comprehension and your attitude of learning and conveying meaning in a non verbose manner ?
Please note, I did not ask you to agree with me or comment on what I expressed. I just asked for a non verbose way of expressing what I expressed.
Is this response an example of your quality of thinking ? Is this your quality of speech ? Is this what you understood of what I said in the post ? If I did a precis of some of your posts in my style ( which are much longer and even more meaningless), I would still convey your exact meaning without needing to agree with them.
With this kind of attitude, no wonder you get thrown out on your ear. That is the only explanation for so much bile ! It maybe not really true, but given this kind of response, it would be very highly likely.
Only a shit bag would have so much shit to fling so much shit at everybody. I don’t mean it as an insult. It is just an observation. It is an insult only if it fits you and it happens to be true.
Reread my post, you paraphrased so well and try getting my meaning without getting so much bigotry in your eye.
In the movie “Eight Mile” a rap ends like this.
“I would like to end this Shit with a F U but have a Nice Day !”
And rat’s farts!
A spoonful of sugar makes your medicine go down?
Cup runneth over with bombast?
Infinite inanity? Inane infinity?
The one who laughs last laughs the loudest?
Gobbledegook?
Sam,
I really do enjoy your posts. Really I do. I Haven’t laughed this hard for ages.
Not at you. Only at your attitude and non empty cup.
You know Sam, if I entertained even the slightest notion that you are a fool or that your path is taking you away from the Infinite, this post has completely put them to rest. Real Good.
What did you do right here, for you to get this accolade, from me of all persons ?
It is a verbose lesson. Just because there are many words in a post does not make it verbose. A spoonful of sugar has countless number of sugar crystals but in the final analysis, the amount of sweetness never exceeds the sweetness of another spoonful. So if you spend your time counting the number of crystals and not enough on parsing the meaning, all you get is the a dry number which only feeds your spite instead of getting the meaning which could have sweetened your life and more importantly, your disposition. This paragraph too has many words, but it will seem excessive only to a guy who cannot get the meaning.
Ok, Sam, let us do an exercise here. Please rephrase what I said in the previous paragraph in your own words in a quantity that would not be verbose. It will demonstrate exactly what you understood of what I said and also simultaneously demonstrate your “obviously” superior command over English and the conveyance of meaning in the language.
I am curious, and I am anxious to see for myself whether there exists a better manner to express complex thought. If it does, I would like to see a sample of nonverbosity that does covey my exact meaning in less words than what I have used.
I will go ahead with the rest of your post, when I get your reply accompanied by a non verbose rendering of my paragraph.
You sound a bit like your verbose namesake Swami Ramakrishna whose bizarre bad habits were camouflaged by his doting devotee Vivekananda who pr0moted his sanitized swami in the West as some great avatar. (But the reality of R’s unsavory persona and weird shenanigans we learn from Indian academics.) Given the ‘n’ in the tail, I would presume you are from India’s dark south.
You sound like you are high on Karma Cola. But you are not alone: plenty others are ODing on this stuff! They have been since Indian mysticism started messing minds here. Almost all of these gurus were con artistes. Turned thousands into sheep. Americans were quick to pick up their tricks and their mystical mumbo jumbo and dubious techniques. The sheep now follow them. Some sing their praises!
Hari Rama, Hari Krishnan! Morty Rama, Morty Krishna!
I am continually surprised by what people write in comments here.
Do you guys read the posts here ?
Morty puts his stuff out here. For free. For those who may need it.
Look at what he puts out. Use it and check it out for yourself. If it doesn’t, just go ahead and lose it. Absent yourself from this forum.
Morty talks something very different from Joe Vitale and others. Do not tar everybody with the same brush. You know a guy like Sam may need some help removing his belief “Beware the helping hand, it belongs to a pickpocket !”. This is not to tar a guy like Sam as a bad guy. This guy is not a perp. He is a victim who has formed a set of negative beliefs based on his experience.
You know in my country, they have a saying. Ignorance is a curable disease. Knowledge being the antidote. Arrogance is incurable simply because it will never “demean” itself by trying any remedy.
If Sam were a buddhist, he could basically see that he is not his ignorance or his arrogance or even his own bad experiences. It is because of this that Buddhism and Hinduism stress on surrender before any spiritual quest. Improving oneself is always a spiritual quest. You essentially start out on a journey beyond your experience and envelope. You have to necessarily drop your fixations and your old patterns of thinking if you really want any change in yourself. Surrender in this context means that you are willing to put your old notions on the ground and pick up and try the new notion out. Sincerely. By all means subject this new notion to as many trials as you want. You get doubts ? Great ! ASK and get answers ! If you don’t get answers from the source you have in front of you, go find another who can answer your question. How is this difficult for a person who sincerely wants self improvement ? If the new notion does not work, keep it down, pick up your old tried notions and proceed to the next step. Before picking up your old notions again, check to see if there are any that can be discarded based on what you learned while trying out the new notion. Make every step an opportunity to learn ! Pick only those notions that you feel can be useful going forward ( out of your old notions). If you get rid of your old notions or beliefs in this way, you are already improving yourself.
This is what any ZEN master will tell you. “Empty your cup before you extend it to be filled !”. Common sense that seems to be really missing in the case of our friend. Imagine that his cup is filled with salt. He goes to a sugar factory, full of hope and longing. He puts his cup under the spigot and stops when the sugar starts overflowing. Obviously. He then decides to taste the cup. If he is lucky he will get some sweet, but the bulk of it will still be the salt. He then tries again and again getting more and more frustrated that he has consumed as much sugar as the next man but he is still getting only salt. What conclusion can he come to ? Either everybody smaking his lips there is a liar or a posear or the sugar factory is defective or a gigantic rip-off.
One can only pity such a person. While he thinks he is being wise and helpful trying to sincerely help other victims, everybody else sees only a fool. You may argue that this is just perception, but if you think carefully, you can clearly see the distinction between reality and perception. Did Sam ever think of checking what was wrong with his cup ? When he found crap in his cup, why did he not invert it and let all that muck drop out ?
You may ask me how does one get rid of the crap in the cup. When the cup is your mind and the stuff inside is your notions of what is right or wrong, acceptable or unacceptable ? What do you think, Morty’s Natural Confidence course is ? He has identified 14 or 19 different kinds of crap in your cup ! What more do you want ?
He gives you a free demo for three of them. Try it and see ! If it doesn’t work for you, let him know ! How is this difficult ?
I realised that I have not gone through all the stuff that Morty has already put out. So I was backtracking when I came across this last post of Jeff. Which triggered this reply.
To put the issue straight. Jeff, it does not matter a rat’s fart what Morty’s motives are. You have a need. Morty says he has a solution. Try it out. It works, problem solved. It doesn’t, problem remains. Do you raise this with Morty or do you go somewhere else ? Take your pick.
Nobody can explain their motives in a way that can be proved. Motives are evolved as a survival strategy which has a tremendous amount of varied input which is bound to be very different from yours. Do not waste your time trying to analyse motives things like this. For Murders and specific crimes yes. Just look at the event. Does it work for you ? Yes or NO. Suck it up and deal with it. Simple. Not easy but Simple.
Morty,
What Sam says sounds so true and valid. How do I know that your intentions are pure and that you really want to help people?
And Sam, you said you’d email me more about yourself and your story and how best to get wisdom through your local library – musician97@hotmail.com. Please email me Sam, I don’t want to get burned by anyone anymore!!
Hi Jeff,
I can’t prove my motives. Take a look at the hundreds of positive comments from people who have benefited from my work. Including over 65,000 who have eliminated beliefs without charge.
Ask yourself if you got any benefit from eliminating a few beliefs for free?
You have to think for yourself and not allow your opinions be swayed by others. What others say may or may not be true. What is your experience?
Love, Morty
As for Joe Vitale, the hypnotic sales scamster peddling quick fixes, buyer beware is all i can say. Same goes for his kick-back, mutual promotion mob.
You wanna make it in this world, do the hard yards and take the hard knocks.
Learn from perennial wisdom, freely available in your public library. And you’ll be richer if you stop giving your cash to the Joe Vitales and Morty Lefkoes now infesting the Internet. Folks, stop helping sage Lefkoe rake in the shekels.
As for suffering, it’s part of life; when it hits you, embrace it, knowing that like all things, that too will pass.
The Buddha reincarnation imparts his corny wisdom to the gullible. Hosannah!
What’s interesting is that your very premise that suffering should be reduced or gotten rid of or minimized is an actual imposition of meaning: suffering is bad. So apparently reducing the meaning out of everything is really … not possible. Unless you are still learning and not quite there yet, lol.
Hi Tim,
Suffering is not bad, it just doesn’t’ feel good. Not the same thing.
Love, Morty
Sam!! Where did you go? You were going to get back to me about your life and your personal philosophy?
Gidday, I think that generally, Sam has some valid reasons to question things. The ‘self help’, or ‘personal development world’ is saturated with internet marketing, kickbacks and referals. Progress is unfortunately largely only measured by sales power. I think discrimination is needed when buying products.
Simplicity is valuable. I am a personal trainer, with 35 years experience, and there are simple, infallible methods of discrimination in the field, which can be applied to personal development. For instance, if someone says use system x, its super simple, super easy, super fast and you will lose heaps of weight, and get 50% stronger, and thousands do it, but dont lose weight, and dont get 50% stronger, discrimination would say that it doesnt work. Having said that, one of the key ingredients is whole heartedly doing it. Its easy to weigh yourself, see yes or no, and to measure your strength increase, again, yes or no.
Now, take certain recognised self help gurus, like Joe Vitale. Despite unlimited access to unlimited abundance, genius, brilliance, finances, mentors, miracles, gurus, techniques, fitness champions, bodybuilding champions, years of trying, etc, etc, his (initially very vocal) attempts at becoming a bodybuilder, and developing an athletic physique (which have mysteriously gone very quiet) are absolutely ludicrous… literally a South Park super episode. Yet, as shown in the first Bill Phillips ‘Body for Life Challenge’, many, many people in only 3 months, without anywhere near the help, money or supposed ‘wisdom’, ‘knowledge’ and contacts of Joe Vitale achieved much, much, much quicker, much, much, much more superior results than Joe vitale. In fact, any truly focused person with a true desire to change their body can do so relatively easily. I, along with numerous other trainers, have irrefutable evidence to prove it.
So discrimination would ask, what about Mr Vitale, what happened to all the talk, the miracles and wonders, the abundance, the wisdom, healings, quantum knowledge, subconscious mind control, source connections, visualisations, etc, etc, which couldn’t achieve something so ridiculously simple? Something that plenty of others have achieved despite an apparent lack of Joe’s resources. And, why don’t people question it? Why buy more?
Why don’t people question Bob Proctor’s recent physical collapse, and much poorer than average health, despite his cells supposedly being bombarded by a sea of abundance, contacts, wise people, wisdom, miracles and ‘secret’ knowledge? Again, discrimination would seek answers and be unafraid to investigate.
So, in some ways, I see Sam’s point. If people make and sell incredible claims, the supposed publicised results of those claims should be measured truthfully and accurately. So, if someone says, ‘I feel 50% stronger’, yet in fact they are actually no stronger, that is the actual result. Just like if someone says I feel heaps more confident and better, but it is not reflected accurately in their life, their creation, again, that is the result.
Social and peer pressure is very persuasive and powerfull, as is the want to belong, to be accepted and fit in, to not be seen as wrong. Hitler’s effect on the German public bears powerfull testimony to it.
The elimination of conflict or beliefs is contrary to Buddhism. The Buddha walked the middle road be teen the tension of opposites. It seems the loefkoe process is one of the steps preceding true understanding of the experience we are having here.
Conflict is the healing process that reminds us that we are already enlightened. If there were no conflict this site would not exist. It exists only because there conflict!
I once asked how you can elminate beliefs. the question is critical. We do not eliminate beliefs but expose their paradox. Once that occurs we have choice. This choice is always available unless we have the limiting beliefs that are UNSEEN that keep us in the Same old patterns.
we walk the tension of opposites between the beliefs. We choose spontaneously daily . Our choice comes not from elimination of beliefs but from awareness, consciousness, enlightenment, shedding light on.
I respect the work you are doing as it has a place and is needed though the understanding might need to deepen in light of some of the commentary.
Enlightenment is to turn the light on not to eliminate or put into the dark.
All awareness is available. elminating conflict will only end in the tension a between enilghtnment and elimination contracting further
Oh, my God!
It is very sad to see how everything in this world becomes a battle of egos…!
Why is it so difficult to open and let it go…?
:O(
Sam! I’m anxiously waiting for your story!!!
Dear Sam,
I am also not an American. I live in Turkey and I am speaking as an outside observer.
It is a fact that old philosophies have existed for thousands of years. Buddha was a man and he taught what he had learned. People got what they got from him. He passed on. Morty also teaches what he learns. This year, I was involved in an experiment he conducted that took 10 weeks and Morty leading with the hypothesis he developed, we all worked to produce experiences that could be used to eliminate negative emotions.
Knowledge belongs to nobody. It is a service to dedicate one’s life to organize and make knowledge more available to people as it is a service to produce food for consumption.
I have so far did not see knowledge organized in such a fashion as in Lefkoe Belief Process. http://www.speakingwithoutfear.com/support-files/LBPStepsrev,063004,03.pdf
As far as I know it took 25 years to develop that process for the Lefkoe Institute in addition to similar other processes working with thousands of people. Those step by step processes are not available in Buddhism, if you have such encountered them, please send me the exact reference.
I am just opening up the discussion here. How do we provide value to others? Is it not a subjective matter? Could you objectively gauge the value one provides to another?
Value is nothing more than an individual perception because in fact, nothing can be added or subtracted to our true nature, which is consciousness. You can prove to yourself without a shed of doubt that you are consciousness by visiting http://www.astraldynamics.com . Or you can eliminate a belief using Morty’s method. Or you can learn to meditate effectively from those who know how to. There are countless ways to prove this. My point is, once you get that you are consciousness it follows that it is your choice what to make out of what happens within your experience, then you might start to see value as being subjective.
Then, how to pay for the value we perceive somebody gives us completely depends on our preference. We might wish to pay money or we can just thank. If the other party also agrees, the game is played and the ‘value’ is delivered.
Buddhism is one way to look at reality, but it is not the only way. You can work for 25 years and develop another way to look at reality that might look like Buddhism, but not exactly the same. We build on knowledge others have produced, we break it up, we make it from the ground up. We play with meaning. Because we are consciousness. There is not a single objective one truth that can occur within our human minds. By creating meaning, we create our experiences. Any new meaning (thought) created causes a new experience to be created.
We have equal rights to work out to distinguish reality as we want to and be totally shameless about it because in the end, all will be OK as we are immortal.
http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855
There are thousands of therapists, psychiatrists, psychologists, counselors, sociologists dedicating their lives on playing with meaning and shaping humanity’s destiny. Everybody deserves to charge for their efforts, and everybody is free to buy or not buy from them.
The need to judge others comes from the habit of seeing reality from a fixed perspective, from a ‘my book’ point of view. Once it is understood that we can look at it from an infinite amount of ways and not lose our real identity one bit, and in fact cause creation unfold by doing so, then judgment becomes just another creation to be observed.
Anyway, all the best.
Jeff, quick note to say I’m a bit busy now and will come back to you later.
”Keep it simple” is not it. It’s just the philosophy behind it. In other words, it does not have to be so complicated.
By making it I mean, I came here with $500 in my pocket as an illegal alien (I worked as a sailor and jumped ship) and made much more than that. Much much more. And everything legit. But it’s a long story.
Have a nice say, Jeff!
Sam,
What is your system? “Keep it simple”? That’s it? What books have you read? What caused you to abandon Buddhism? Can you expand on what you mean by you “making it”? I have so many questions and you seem like a very intriguing person. Thanks Sam!! I love your voice in the wilderness!!!
Dear Erdal,
Thanks for your nuanced response.
Straight off, ref your comment ”There is nothing inherently wrong with American people”, I agree. But for an outsider, born and bred in another culture, I can see things from a comparative perspective. After all, there is something called a general American culture, as they are French and German and Japanese and the whole gamut of cultures in the planet. And as I observe American culture, certain features reveal themselves. One such feature in the ceaseless complication of basic stuff. Another is the crass commercialization of ‘solutions’.
One serious grouse I have with Morty is his shameless attempt to push a pastiche derived from time-tested wisdom and passing it as his original wisdom. That, in my book, is a rip-off. And he insists that he has improved on a philosophy, a large, ancient and powerful body of existential philosophy of which he has only scratched the surface. This is self-aggrandizement. This I can’t respect. Fact is, even his belief elimination system is available for free and it has been for two and half millenniums.
Morty is not the only American mining the wisdom of the East — which has always been free. Buddhism, in particular, is the world’s first and greatest human potential/personal development system which deals with the whole kaboodle of being human and transcending all sorts of things one would wish to transcend.
But Morty’s ilk takes it, repackages it and sells it for a fee. His price list is too crass for words.
Maybe the only habit I need to overcome is trying to be a voice in this wilderness, and for that, I certainly don’t need Morty’s products.
I want to use `dissipate its effects` instead of `undo its effects` because a belief does what it does until you eliminate it. After you eliminate it, the associated feelings, behavior and recurring thoughts are gone.
Sam,
I really respect that you have gone through all those what you did and still became successful. But the point here is not becoming successful or surviving. The point is understanding a blueprint of how your mind works. Every people are not the same, so some might have the experiences to develop their 3-step systems and make it work. But when some beliefs you have developed and are unaware of drag you down in the circumstances that you come to experience in your life, you have two ways to deal with it. You grit your teeth and live with the conflicts within your mind and deal with the situations. This might take a lot of energy fighting yourself. Or you can learn to remove these conflicts and go with a peace of mind.
There is nothing inherently wrong with American people. Most of them are heavily conditioned by the society to not accept themselves as they are and strive for needlessly high standards, creating all the conflict within the nation and outside the nation. They are not very different from all the world. Many of the moaning ones have built complex personalities under the bombardment of complex information, where their creative energy is fighting with itself. You might have aligned your creative energies up to a point that you don’t feel bad. But could you do it if you were such an American and already built up such beliefs?
Morty doesn’t dictate a belief system, if you study, he teaches how to take control of your belief system and even transcend it. Almost everybody in almost any situation can use it (conscious thinking ability is required) because it is independent of the circumstances.
But you can’t understand it if you don’t experience it just like you can’t understand what eating an apple is before eating it.
You might be compelled to criticize personal development efforts and I see your point. There is so much material out there that won’t work on most people unless they have a way/an understanding to change or transcend their beliefs. You can read a thousand books on personal development and can not change one single habit if you don’t eliminate the associated beliefs or learn how to transcend your beliefs. And if you live such experiences and unfortunately decide that personal development itself does not work, you have an additional burden on your shoulders.
We form our beliefs and it might seem snake oil to go to their source and eliminate them. In a way, it is. It can indeed be seen as magical if someone teaches you a method that helps you to deal with any past mental decision and undo its effects on your mind and behavior otherwise which you probably would have to live with all your life unless you discovered another way to let go of it.
I don’t judge you in any way, and I advise you to push it and experience once Morty’s method on any unwanted habit/behavior feeling/circumstances in your life, if you have one.
Regards.
Jeff,
I really don’t mean to brag, but since you asked …
If you know where I’m coming from, you are bound to be impressed at what I have made myself. I literally got off the boat, saw the big French bitch in New York harbor, determined to squeeze some goodness from her tits and, now, 10 years later, I can say I made it. Made it quite a bit better than the average American.
When I came here my English was rudimentary, at the level of an American grade school kid. I wanted to get a college ed, but dropped out when I realized I was wasting my time. Instead I taught myself. Read a lot. Good books are my gurus.
As for Morty’s belief elimination, he has made a complex ‘system’ — snake oil, really. I looked at Morty’s belief elimination price list in a grid which made my head spin.
I have a simple, 3-step system that worked pretty well for me. It helped me, a poor fella from a Third World ghetto (where the poverty has no comparison here, no social security safety net, where if you are broke, you are dead ) ‘conquer’ America. The beauty of it is that you don’t need to get twisted in Morty’s knots to make it work. It’s a no-brainer. Keep it simple, is my motto.
I ask myself, what the heck is wrong with these whinging Americans, spoilt beyond compare, moaning about every little hang-up or ‘problem’, sitting ducks for the savvy Mortys of the world?
understanding this is the true way to be enlightened:
the world you know and the self you take yourself to be is a mental translation. the response to assuming a seperate identity is fear and desire. know with certainty that the mental translation can never seperate what is already not two. see seperation as an assumption and the illusion ends of itself.
I am using the Lefkoe method now for some time and the benefits I have experienced cannot be fathomed. How such a simple process can be so effective, the results so immediate, and the relief so lasting can only be attributed to the scientific, – rational -, underpinnings of the Lefkoe Method. Using reason to eliminate beliefs to eliminate emotions. And if this is a Jewish method, then I wish for everyone to be Jewish. The method works.
Dear Sam,
Tori is certainly jumping to conclusions. Sam, what exactly do you believe in that has brought you peace? You mentioned Darwinism, but can you give me a detailed explanation – and if you don’t want to post it so that other people start jumping all over you and misconstruing your words, could you email me? Thanks Sam!!
Believe me, Barry, I am at peace. Well as at peace as one can be given the state of the planet.
mbm blathered: “we were created in the image of god as clearly states that in bible & jesus told us that we will do miracles & wonders in his name cast out devils do what he did before he was crusified for us! & in the quaran it classes us as germ cells so if followed the phylosophy from bible we cant go anywhere but to the father who created us..! as he is in us before us behind us beside us((((((:”
Tell me, mbm, do you also believe that Jonah camped in the belly of a whale till he was vomited out?
My advise to you: clear you head of this Bible, Koran, Kabala nonsense. They were the manic ramblings of old Jews and an Arab on hash.
BTW, that spooky avatar of yours … is that Satan or one of his minions with the face of the Hound of the Baskervilles? Hope you are not possessed by it!
Anyway, try to exorcise yourself of religious hallucinations, mbm. This stuff won’t do your head any good. They’ll screw you up good.
Wow! Sam, I hope you find peace somehow in your life.
Tori asks: “esp. Americans, Jews, and Buddhists. Who else do you hate? Are you an equal opportunity hater?”
What gives you the impression I am a hater? Far from it, my dear. Criticism does not equate hate. Neither does skepticism. So don’t jump to silly conclusions about hate. I abhor it and do not engage in it.
As for your question, why should anyone pay heed to what I am saying, here’s Jeff: “Hi Sam. Is what you’re saying true, Sam? I’m an avid LBM supporter but after reading your comment, I started worrying. Please respond and let me know, thanks!”
Dacia, glad you find me amusing. Some amuse themselves to death. Just kidding. :)
Word to the wise: Get real!
Sam, I find you very amusing! I am only observing, no attachments here.
Sam, so your argument is that if somone has paid for something then they will lie and say it worked, and that there is no chance that it worked. So, even though you have not tried it and compare to mustard gas, you are all-knowing and everyone else is a liar. But you are forgetting that people tend to complain if they feel ripped off, and I don’t see complaints here, plus Morty gives a lifetime money-back guarantee, and yes, some people are not helped as is the case with anything. Have you tried EFT? That’s something that has been proved to work and costs absolutely nothing. And what about the free TLM belief eliminators? People certainly know what they’re getting when they buy the others. Morty is giving you the whole script and list of beliefs; you can do it on your own or buy the readymade. Obviously if the free things did not work, then no one would buy the non-free ones. In fact, the free ones were a remarkable help to me. You are free to try, buy, not buy, whatever; but you’re irritating people here (esp. Americans, Jews, and Buddhists. Who else do you hate? Are you an equal opportunity hater?) What are things that you consider can help people that are acceptable to you? You’ve got no proof that TLM DOESN’T work. It’s harmless and free to try. As for friendly research, why would researchers do that? Now you’re taking evidence and proclaiming it’s biased. Do you think Morty is like Eli Lilly or something? Highly doubt it. Fact is, people can be helped quickly from some things, jut like they can be harmed quickly. Doesn’t mean using TLM or EFT, EMDR, etc. that all their problems are solved, but some loops in the brain can be untangled. You have no evidence, no experience, only your opinion. Why should anyone listen?
Childish posts?!
You know what, Tori? When someone buys a product, they find reasons to justify it because they are now invested in it, especially their ego. Same goes for methods, beliefs, ideas. Some even go to war for beliefs. Mercifully, I’m not one of them.
Y0u can organize talks with pretty much any organization if you contact their PR person. So the number of associations Morty had spoken to does not impress me. Same goes for friendly research.
BTW, must I try mustard gas before I can comment on it?
Sam, did you even try TLM? Did you read the research study showing that it eliminated the fear of public speaking?
You’ve already attacked Morty, all people who sell and give away self-help products, Jews, Americans, and now Buddhism. Perhaps you could use some “real” help from a qualified psychiatrist. Meantime, please stop your childish posts.
Hi again,
The problem with pop-psych is that the plethora of quick-fix self-improvement methods on the market is that, sooner or later, the people who buy into them fall flat. In other words, they are not sustainable, mere placebos. Much academic research has been done in this area and the findings are irrefutable. But there is no denying there is a sucker born every minute and, as such, these things sell. People waste years before they wise up.
The fact is, there are no quick fixes for deep-rooted problems of the psyche, especially not from pop-psych. At best, they can give a temporary boost. But there is potential for aggravating problems when such methods eventually flop, as they usually do.
As for Marty’s free ‘tool’, what’s the difference between that and the ‘freebies’ salesman offer to hook and reel people into their products and services? It’s what we call a sweetener.
Marty is just one among the hundreds and thousands of self-claimed gurus in business in America. I am by no means saying he means any harm. On the contrary, I am sure Marty means well. But I wouldn’t put much value on the methods he developed which is, for all intents and purposes, a pastiche drawn from here and there.
My quarrel, if you like, is about peddling bogus ‘systems’ promising pie-in-the-sky instant transformation to the gullible. Marty is not the only one in this trade. He is just a small-time operator in an industry that has stars like Tony Robbins, who is a big talking, big showman bilking millions from suckers, through ra ra talk shops that damage your bank balance and heaps of self improvement merchandise.
So, as the Romans said, caveat emptor — buyer beware.
Barry,
I am an ex-Buddhist. Since coming here, I quickly realized that to practice real Buddhism is to be sucker. My operative doctrine now — as is the norm here — is Darwinism.
Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional – whenever I remind yourself of it, the choice comes up, most of the time I give the suffering up, and sometimes I do choose to suffer a bit, when I have a big challenge to let go of the suffering addiction. But I always know that it is my choice.
mbm – It is so sad to watch the christians wallow in the church imposed guilt of the crucifiction, instead of rejoicing in the joy of resurrection. I think if Yeshua visits us again, the first thing he will do is wave his hand and make all the crosses disappear!
we were created in the image of god as clearly states that in bible & jesus told us that we will do miracles & wonders in his name cast out devils do what he did before he was crusified for us! & in the quaran it classes us as germ cells so if followed the phylosophy from bible we cant go anywhere but to the father who created us..! as he is in us before us behind us beside us((((((:
This is one way of looking at how human beings came to be on Earth though it is one belief among thousands. I believe part of our Journey here is to discover our commonality rather than our divisiveness. The Bible does indeed “state” what you say; whether or not one chooses to follow this is up to the individual. I personally do not believe there is an all knowing and all seeing entity out there who demands to be praised to get what I want. We’re in the midst of an uprising between those who are eager to change and those who are frightened and want to remain as they are. Even in this arena, though Morty says this does not preclude the existence of a Higher Power, we can spread the news that we are not married to one belief and “it is the One Truth” Love and Light on Your Own Journey
Hi,
I think it is really important for all of us to realize who we really are in order to live life without limits. So seeing that your work has a very spiritual part to it is very pleasing.
Also, I would like to thank you for the free opportunity to rid myself of the beliefs “mistakes and failures are bad”, “I’m not good enough/important” and “change is hard and takes a long time”. I do feel different now, after going through of them. And as I make typing mistakes, I feel a lot less disturbance in myself. So they definitely are gone :)
Regards,
Rasmus
Hi.
Just from watching the video comments from your daughter and from a satisfied user of the Occuring process and looking at your diagram, I was able to make a remarkable shift. I have experienced great fears since I was young when someone close to me expresses anger and gives emotional abuse “at me” due to THEIR beliefs about an interaction with me. After considering your option of NOT reacting, not attaching meaning to another’s outburst, I experienced this type of aggressive, angry reaction from someone close to me and I was able to listen, observe and not react back with anger or hurt. He didn’t like that, stormed out of the room calling me “abusive” and swearing at me, I guess out of frustration over my non-combativeness. My heart raced, I sat calmly and allowed my body to return to a calm state, then went about my day focusing on other things! It felt great.
But I do have a question. My 15 year old daughter is experiencing a great deal of difficulty and I am having a hard time not attaching meaning to some of her behaviors that I see as unhealthy and taking her away from “who she really is”. How can I best help her as a parent? Part of the problem is that she is living with her father so I don’t see her everyday and her father is very combative and abusive with her and she is acting out and has low self-esteem. Do you have materials for teens?
Please help!
Thanks in advance!!
hi
I like the points u said in this post. I have a doubt. As social beings, humans interact based on certain belief systems. So if i eliminate my beliefs , i will have keep on explaining the reasons for doing my activities in a way “different” from most others. So how to deal with that. Thanks for the post and u are doing a ggreat job. Hurray.
Hi Krish,
Why would you have to explain your behavior to others? A lot of people do things differently from others and see no need to explain to justify their behavior.
Thanks for the question.
Regards, Morty
hi
Thanks for the answer. So it could be my limiting belief and i hope so bcoz i can then change it.
Hi,
While the occuring process may be an excelent way to take all meaning out of an expereince, the interview we had recently where I explained how to make the Who Am I Really process accessable whenever you want, is a good way to acheive the other method of seeing yourself as the creator.
Just a thought,
be well, Andrulanix
Hi Andrulanix,
Yes, the Who Am I Really? Process is very useful to distinguishing yourself as the creator and minimizing duality.
Regards, Morty
‘The best way to relieve suffering is to create yourself as the creator, as Self, as non-dual awareness.’ Recently I’ve been finding that focusing on breath is the most immediate way I can find to do this. Can you explain why that might be? Thanks for your post, your ideas are always interesting.
Hi Leila,
I’ve read that meditation while focusing on the breath can help you get into a deep meditative state, but I’m not really that familiar with the practice.
Regards, Morty
Hi Marty,
Is your repackaging of Buddhism for profit a Jewish stunt or an American one?
A wise man, probably the wisest to walk this earth, taught deep truths 2,550+ years ago in India. I’m amused by how you are ripping off that wisdom (without even the courtesy of any acknowledgment) and passing it as your own deep wisdom to an obviously gullible American audience.
Anyway, good luck on your wise man trip … as good a way as any to spin a buck.
Sounds like Sam understands Buddhism but does not practice it himself.
Hi Sam. Is what you’re saying true, Sam? I’m an avid LBM supporter but after reading your comment, I started worrying. Please respond and let me know, thanks!
Hi Jeff,
What are you concerned about after reading Sam’s post?
If you have any specific questions, perhaps I can answer them.
When people discuss who we really are, we are all talking about the same phenomenon.
And people who are students of Buddhism say that the specific processes of The Lefkoe Method are unique and are not something from Buddhism, although the goal and purpose of the processes is similar.
Regards, Morty
Hi Sam,
Sorry that our work doesn’t seem to be useful to you.
However, the process that eliminates beliefs without any charge has helped over 60,000 people. A few thousand more have paid a few hundred dollars to eliminate all the beliefs that used to cause specific problems in their lives — and no longer do.
You are welcome to think I’ve added nothing to Buddhism, but thousands of people wouldn’t agree with you.
In any case, thanks for taking the time to comment.
Regards, Morty
Notions that you are without any beginning or end; omnipresent and powerful beyond the sum of constituent parts; that you are giving rise to all that intersects. There is no right way to get here – and Here is not a place. Enlightenment/transcendence/Awareness propagates forever. It’s Unique Iteration is learned for and by “thy self” – Generative syntax; future forms; Buddha’s Love, the one and only pattern of convergence that became your DNA’s molecular structure … “to learn for themselves; self-generate” These vastly different levels of resolution are so grateful. Now Morty has come to find what he has always known. ONENESS. Be AWARE that the great Singularity’s decryption is expressed as entropy; the relative motion between events. Experiencing higher order is like time itself stopping.
Morty,
You put into words what I have been thinking about recently.
I think that WAIR is about experiencing oneself as a Creator and is based on the experience of being able to eliminate a belief and all the changes associated with the gone belief in one’s life. This is a very practical way to get that we are more than the creation.
It seems if one would choose to eliminate suffering from his life, he must continually create the experience of Oneness. I think there are additional ways to deepen this experience of Oneness and see it from other aspects such as Spiritual Heart Meditation. I think there are degrees of experiencing Oneness and life is enriched by exploring an endless possibility of such experiences.
I also believe that we are free and nobody compels us to create any experience or to get enlightened except for ourselves. When one looks at life in a detached way, all is OK. It is kind of an exploration of oneself. But returning to the identified state and experiencing oneself as a creation, one will feel all the consequences of any creative activity and therefore is responsible for them.
Humanity wouldn’t create so much ‘suffering’ if everyone were adequately trained to experience oneness and transform themselves.
Love and Light
Hi Erdal,
Thanks for taking the time to comment. As usual your words add to my post and provide extra food for thought.
Regards, Morty
It’s a pleasure Morty. I want to add that it would be better to say instead of
“It seems if one would choose to eliminate suffering from his life, he must continually create the experience of Oneness.”
it would be better to put it this way,
“It seems if one would choose to eliminate suffering from his life, one must continually strive to stay conscious not to both create duality (one preferred and one non-preferred part of reality) and get identified with it, inadvertently blocking the experience of Oneness.”
It looks like the missing link for me is also presented in this article. Even though I could eliminate beliefs by myself, and even eliminate an occurring, I still was stuck in an endless loop of searching for a ‘solution’. It seems that I was trapped and were not conscious of the duality I was creating within my consciousness. Something comes up and breaks you if you get identified with a certain preference of reality sooner or later whatever belief system one develops. One can delude himself by creating a protected cocoon around himself by developing a seemingly unbreakable survival strategy, but it is highly probable that sooner or later something outside his preferred side of the duality will show up and frustration will arise. It becomes especially frustrating to get frustrated of getting frustrated.
I was reading Rumi (On Sufism) and understand him much better. I am optimistic that all these efforts are adding to our awareness and some leap in consciousness is on the agenda for humanity.
Me, too. Love and Light
:)
So what I understand is that as long as people believe they actually are their thoughts, feelings, and actions and not the consciousness watching them show up, they will suffer. And not knowing our true nature as the creator of our lives, we invent ways to feel good about ourselves. I look around myself, at my friends and family as they struggle through emotional dramas, and wish they could feel the sense of wholeness and peace I feel everyday and have the WAIR to help when something slips up. My sister used to tell her kids when they were in school, “Remember who you are.” I don’t know if she knew then or now that who we all are is consciousness that cannot suffer. Love and Light
Hi Lauren,
Your sister is a very perceptive person. Thanks for taking the time to share your story.
Regards, Morty