About 20 years ago I had the opportunity to discuss my work (which was only a few years old at that point) with Dr. Larry Dossey, a pioneer in the mind-body and holistic health fields. I told him how the Lefkoe Belief Process (LBP) eliminated beliefs and how the Who Am I Really? (WAIR?) Process seemed to help people get into an altered state of consciousness in which they experienced nothing was missing and anything was possible.
After discussing my work with me for a few minutes, Larry asked if I had studied Buddhism. I replied that I had read a little about it, but certainly was not a student of it. He then told me that I had “re-invented Buddhism.” I think what he meant by that was I had created a simple, practical process that was based on many of the tenets of Buddhism.
Does the Lefkoe Ocurring Process facilitate “witnessing”?
Last week I realized that my newest course—which teaches people how to distinguish between reality/events and the meaning we give those events, and then how to dissolve the meaning—also seems to have much in common with Buddhism.
The process of dissolving the meaning of events using the Lefkoe Occurring Process (LOP) seems to be diametrically opposed to the techniques Buddhists use: Buddhists say we should just “witness” the stream of thoughts and emotions and not do anything about them. I on the other hand suggest you actively dissolve them. Witnessing is supposed to be a passive state while the use of the LOP is a very active process. But the purpose of the two seems to be the same: to get to the point where you have detached from the events and can “witness” them without giving them any meaning.
And because meaningless events can’t cause you to feel anything, because only the meaning you have attributed to them causes feelings, when you merely witness events without giving them any meaning there are virtually no feelings. (Sometimes conditioning causes feelings, but this is a relatively small source of our feelings. And obviously, a real perceived threat to our survival would cause fear.)
In fact, people in my Lefkoe Occurring Courses have discovered that by the end of the course you actually stop giving meaning to most events and are able to quickly and easily dissolve the few meanings you do create. At which point you merely “witness” the events in front of you.
The value of being able to witness
What is the value of being able to observe events without meaning and emotions? As Ken Wilbur put it during an interview: “The better able you are to witness, the better able you are to embrace life fully, because there is no fear.”
And as one of the participants in the current course put it:
Dissolving the meaning does not mean that you give up your option to have and maintain an opinion about an event. It just gives you the freedom to think more clearly and objectively about the issue, and then the freedom to choose your own opinion based on “clear-headed” ideas that are not clouded by strong, usually negative emotions that limit your ability to see the possibilities clearly. This process then allows you to live the life that you choose, act the way that you deliberately and consciously desire, rather than to be tossed around in a sea of limiting and negative emotions and beliefs that tend to be so pervasive and overwhelming to most of us much of the time.
I found a short description of the witness state on the Internet that gets at the heart of it. (http://scienceofenergyhealing.com/developing-the-witness-observer/)
The witness/observer is basically a “persona” within you that is not identifying with what is going on. It’s just noticing what’s happening. It’s response is always one of curiosity. Another part of your mind might be judging or labeling the experience—the favorite one being “This is bad”—but the witness/observer perceives everything from the premise of allowing and trust in a good universe. It’s an open mental stance, not closed or contracted. In Buddhism, developing the witness/observer is a foundational piece of their teachings. …
When we give meanings to meaningless events that lead to “negative” emotions such as anxiety and anger, the body secrets stress chemicals that cause inflammation, the major cause of degenerative diseases and aging. By using the witness/observer with its innocence, openness and trust, we can sail through adversity in a healthier way.
The results produced by The Lefkoe Method
So the LBP helps people permanently rid themselves of specific illusions (beliefs) they have about themselves, people, and life. The WAIR? Process helps them experience themselves as the space in which their life shows up—as the creator of their life, not merely the creation. And the Lefkoe Occurring Process helps people to easily witness events without the meaning and emotions that usually accompany our observation of events.
Maybe The Lefkoe Method is a practical Buddhism for our time.
I still haven’t read much about Buddhism so some of what I’ve attributed to Buddhism in this post might not be accurate. If you are more familiar with it tell me what you think. What are the similarities and the differences between The Lefkoe Method and Buddhism? Please post your comments below.
If you haven’t yet eliminated at least one of your limiting self-esteem beliefs using the Lefkoe Belief Process, go to htp://www.recreateyourlife.com/free where you can eliminate one negative belief free.
For information about eliminating 23 of the most common limiting beliefs and conditionings, which cause eight of the most common problems in our lives, and get a separate video of the WAIR? Process, please check out: http://recreateyourlife.com/naturalconfidence.
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Sorry it was “augmenting”.
I think, the Buddhist method and the Lefkoe Method, both work towards agumenting the abundance of an individual. As far as one is able to benefit from each one of these, jointly or separately, one should definitely adher to these methods. And to add something on to these superfine methods, one should try to get the holld and understanding of and other superrior method that helps n leading a meaningful and happy life.
Thanks Morty,
Pawan Garg
a few words:
wow
&
kol ha kavod – hebrew for ” good work” (more or less)
Hi Morty,
Thanks for your post. I too have tried many personal growth approaches in the past and can say that the Lefkoe Method has been the only approach that has consistently helped me get into the “witness” position. Others have helped me gain more awareness (mainly regarding beliefs I hold and such) but haven’t seemed to help eliminate any of my unwanted behaviors.
The Lefkoe Method stands alone in that arena.
Thanks,
Brandon Jones
I thought the points raised in the original article were interesting until I read the page energyhealing which it links to. This page, by a self titled mystic and channeler, contains serverly dubious new age pantheistic mysticism that has erroneous metaphysical views and contains viewpoints that have been proven to be psychologicaly dangerous. How do you explain the relationship with your method and the explanations in energyhealing which, you state, get ‘right to the heart’ of the issue?
Hi Bob,
I was more interested in the content of what got said than in who said it. I didn’t check out the credentials of who said it, I only agreed with what was being said.
Thanks for posting.
Love, Morty
interesting posts.
different strokes for different folks.
For myself,entering into a state of witnessing is enabling me to live through a tumultuous period in the Middle East with equinamity.
This is a very interesting post!I have done the entire Natural Confidence program now, plus worked one-on-one with Shelly many times.
I also use many other personal growth programs, and in those I am instructed to enter the witness and just watch what is happening, which is easier said than done!
I have always found it difficult to watch things with curiosity, but the other day I successfully watched how I was making a belief that I had true! I believe this is largely because of my experience with the Lefkoe Method.
So what I’m saying is that the Lefkoe Method is not only an effective way of eliminating limiting beliefs, but it is also speeding up my own spiritual growth.
This is revolutionary.
Much Love,
Gary
Morty,
It’s not too late to check out the high-fidelity Buddhist methods to dissolve negative beliefs, tested for more than 2 000 years and found highly effective. In fact, one of the Buddha’s injunctions was to test his teachings, instead of blindly accepting them.
“Believe nothing! No matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense” – Siddhartha Gauthama
He was the wisest and one of the most compassionate to have ever walked this planet, the greatest of all gurus.
Hi Sam,
I’ve talked to people who have been practicing Buddhism for 20 years and a friend who is getting her Ph.D. in Buddhist studies (and who has read at least 100 books and studied with masters) and no one has been able to find a process that will easily and permanently eliminate a belief one has lived with for a lifetime in about 15-20 minutes. Neither do they know of a process that de-conditions stimuli so they no longer automatically produce undesirable feelings, a process that takes about 5 minutes. Or a process that de-conditions eating when triggered. Or a process that will permanently eliminate the fear of public speaking in less than four hours.
If you know of such processes in Buddhist literature, please give me the references.
Love, Morty
Hi Morty,
Point taken. But as I said before, I doubt Buddhism gives solutions to specific problems like fear of public speaking although it teaches how to avoid gluttony. More importantly, it offers methods for deep positive change and eradication of all sorts of fears, as well as build confidence and creativity.
As for speed, maybe your method is better for a fast-food culture.
Buddhism unleashed phenomenal creativity, from Afghanistan to Japan, as well as learning. The world’s oldest universities were Buddhist institutions, which taught philosophy, medicine, mathematics, plastic arts, etc. Scholars came from as far as Peking and Athens to study in these places.
http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/ebdha240.htm
http://yabaluri.org/TRIVENI/CDWEB/nalandaandotherbuddhistuniversitiesjul94.htm
Sadly, there were all destroyed by invading barbarian hordes who thought the book they brandished had it all.
Anyway this is all by the way. The point I’m trying to make is that Buddhism boasts a vast body of systematic knowledge, as it is a way that delved deep into every aspect of being and becoming. I know for sure that negative belief elimination is a key area they have expertise in. Buddhism is not one system of belief but a matrix of systems. As Merv Fowler correctly says in his book on the subject, “Buddhism is really a mind culture”. I would describe it as system encompassing soul, life, mind.
Do dip into it in a systematic fashion and it will surprise you. All the best with your work!
Sam!
Still on the rampage… I like it. I’ll say this, you’re a persistent fella….
James
Hi Morty,
I thought I would take a shot at answering your query about the connection between Buddhism and your method of clearing beliefs.
The core teaching of Buddhism consists of the four noble truths about suffering and the cause of suffering. And the fourth of those truths concerns the eightfold path, a sequence of eight spiritual exercises that, according to the Buddha, held the key to eliminating suffering.
The first exercise of the eightfold path is right understanding. And I would venture to say that the opposite of right understanding would be the false beliefs that we hold about ourselves and the world. So when you help someone clear those beliefs, you are helping them achieve what a Buddhist would call right understanding.
From what I’ve read of the testimonials on your website, it does seem that people are eliminating various kinds of suffering in their lives by clearing their false beliefs. So perhaps that is your connection to Buddhist practice…
Maybe Morty was a Buddhist monk in a previous incarnation. Instead of bearing the illusion that he is reinventing the wheel (the Wheel is the symbol of Buddhism), maybe he should just don Buddhist robes again, teach its philosophy and method (instead of calling it the Lefkoe Method, which is essentially a rip off from Buddhism) and help people. :-)
Erdal at el,
Some folks are convinced the best way to erase what they believe are false beliefs is torture, or better yet the erasure of the person holding such beliefs. Problem solved! Permanent. More effective than Morty’s method. Love & light, indeed! I’ve seen it!
Erdal,
I have heard your message, with slight variations, from many sources similar to yours.
But I have lived in the real world for quite a few decades, lived the “full catastrophe”, as Zorba the Greek put it. I carry scars of real wounds inflicted by people who did not have a shred of what you call love, people who considered me an enemy because of my belief (ideology) in social justice. And please don’t tell me there’s love within them and I only have to realize it and find it and honor it. Sure, they must love some things, like their pet Alsatian (like Hitler also did), their families, their mistresses.
If you lived the life I did, it would have automatically cured you of the inanities you spout and made you a hardcore realist. I have inhabited a very different world from yours. So mine has been a very different life from yours, imbibing candyfloss spiritual fluff from the comfort of your cozy armchair or at some safe retreat. Do not overdose on this stuff: it makes you unbalanced and make you write stuff like you do.
Hi Sam,
Those who have learned to use violence to get what they want, or use violence to cope with feelings of helplessness exist.
Many people learn to use violence to get what they want at early ages when parents use violence on them. They develop beliefs such as “I can get what I want if I hit others” because that is exactly what their parents do to them. Later in life, this belief is carried on as a building block of their personality. When they see no other way to get what they want, or even when they see a other ways to get what they want, these people are inclined towards violence as long as they carry this belief. They are not at the whim of the belief, they can give another meaning if they can become conscious of what is happening, but they are emotionally inclined towards violence. There may be other supporting beliefs for this behavior.
Feelings of helplessness can occur in many ways but when it does, a person feels a degree of anger. If a person has low self esteem, again owing to a lack of unconditional love and mis- parenting, that person will seek a way to compensate for this low self esteem. For some people, this may lead to over identification with a certain lifestyle and ideology. These people will feel helpless when their lifestyle is threatened, and will become angry without knowing the real reason. Anger can result in violence, even if it does not have to, especially for people who have seen violence in their life as a valid outlet (from their parents, and in warlike societies).
For such reasons, and there might be many more, people like you who have different ideologies can be persecuted and suffer.
There is physical pain, and there is the emotional pain. Even if the physical pain might long be gone, the emotional pain remains until you genuinely find out/experience why they did what they did, and whatever they did, they could not harm your true being, which is formless consciousness. Some call this forgiveness, some call this, absolution: understanding that there is nothing to forgive. If you still feel emotional pain about what has happened, that is not because of the physical pain that has occurred, that is all about the complex meaning that has formed within your subconscious about those events.
All of us have our own illusions about reality, and feel compelled to live according to them without even recognizing what they are. I am sure I have many beliefs yet to discover, just as I am sure you also will, that keeps us from a complete experience of unconditional love. But I also know what I am beginning to discover about how profound this love can be, as a direct experience, not ideas in my mind, but in my heart.
I don’t see any reason to argue, as long as we can understand reality can occur to each of us in a different way in a given moment and that is perfectly natural and OK.
Love,
Erdal
Sam, I want to add that, there are case studies of past life experiences and also times between two lives. Independent accounts taken under deep hypnosis confirm/co-confirm that significant events that happen to us in our lives are not forced upon us without the consent of our Souls (call it whatever keeps existing after death). We have free will but at a higher level than we are always conscious of.
You can check out that book:
Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives: Michael Newton
You can also check out:
Robert Monroe and Robert Bruce, two different authors who are experts on OBE (Out of Body Experiences). This subject is currently researched in labs in universities and is a definite indication that we have an existance beyond our bodies. Here is the link for Projectarium: a lab that is used for OBE research:
http://www.iacworld.org/research/research-campus-projectarium
But of course! Reincarnation is the basis of the concept of karma. I believe in it implicitly. In fact, it’s the only logical explanation for the vastly different births, places of births and life experiences of people. For example, we can ask why are two children of the same parents born different, one perfectly healthy, the other blind and deformed. The answer would be karma.
G,
I’m happy to play the devils advocate.
Do you know that the believers of 4 785 religions in the world are all convinced that they follow the true way and all the others are deluded fools?
Forget the small religions. For 1.3 billion Muslims, xtianity is a mighty blasphemy. Jews think the same but they prefer to keep quiet about it, lest the the good xtians make them pay for their heresy. For Hindus, with their million gods, more the merrier. They absorb all the gods, including yours. Buddhists don’t believe in god; they are, in essence, atheists, but being human they have deified the founder.
So we have this ”my way or no way,” ” i’ll be saved, you are doomed because you are a non-believe (and therefore our enemy)” mindset operating for the past 6 000 years.
The gods, if they exist, have been enjoying a mighty good laugh at the foibles of humankind. I’m sure the devils, is they exist, join the mirth.
Run along now and sing some hymns and hallelujah. It’s Sunday. Fess up. Carry on as usual from Monday.
Hi Morty,
Hoping you don’t get off into all this complex babble. Your work is so helpful, partly because its so clean.
“The Holy Spirit leads us into all Truth” “You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free”. Whether we know it or not, the real forces are at work. Very thankful for your platform.
Blessins,
G
Hey Kim,
When a crazed gunman opens fire at you when you are peacefully meditating in a park and feeling incredibly liberated, do your best not to attach any meaning to the event when you are being hauled to hospital in an ambulance. And pray that the medical staff and cops don’t have their heads in airy-fairy land but firmly grounded to face this Darwinian world in which these days predators also come proclaiming love and promising wonders.
Morty,
Thanks for this wonderful learning experience. I first read your post as it seemed interesting to compare your method to an established spiritual growth tradition. But the Universe, with It’s wicked sense of humor, decided to teach me some more stuff I needed to learn.
Even though I’m getting much better at the observer state, I still felt pangs of irritation at some folk who feel the need to belittle others with their amazing intellect. And it was fascinating to watch people get sucked in by it. As I read your responses (and others), I sensed the love and patience that comes with trusting the process and remaining detached. As usual, it is an incredibly liberating, light feeling to accept the world and those in it for what it truly is. Deciding to NOT attach meaning really changes a person’s experience of interactions with others to a fascinating, illuminating exchange rather than childish quarrels.
Thanks for your Method and thanks for walking the talk. Your stock has really gone way up in my book.
Hi Kim,
Thanks for taking the time to post. I’m really glad you found my post and the comments since then useful.
I’m still waiting to get a response from Sam about my independent research study, which is all he said he needed to give my work some credibility.
Have a great weekend.
Love, Morty
Pundit,
You read me wrong. I have some respect for the young Jewish gentleman’s gentle teachings, but I think he was suffering from a serious god-complex. In fact, his mom Mariam thought he was a bit off. But I like his lifestyle. When the wedding party ran out of booze, he turned water into potent Jewish wine so that everyone could get drunk and be merry. He liked to hang out at the pub, eat fish and roti, maybe mutton curry and he liked the company of tarts. Too bad the young Jewish dude’s promising career was cut short, but he badly wanted to get crucified.
But as for me be an xtian, perish the thought, man! More evil has been done in its name, oceans of blood spilled in its name, than anything else. And mother church is a fat old sow that has robbed, sanctioned murder, mayhem and pillage, and played hell and politics for about 2,000 years. I have no respect for popes, priests and vermin evangelists, especially the fatcat American evangelists. Sleazebags! Of course, some of them were nice, like Ma Teresa doing good in Kali’s City. Others did some good setting up schools and also brainwash kids and inculcate guilt complex.
And you know, I’ve never been scammed by anyone, but I know people who have been.
As for digambaras and assorted naked fakirs, the more the merrier. They are exotic and good photo ops for spiritual tourists.
I wouldn’t call myself a loser. I won some and lost some, like everyone else eventually does in life. But positive affirmations are a bit too juvenile for me and I don’t need it. Maybe good for people with poor memory or who need constant reassurance. I don’t. I don’t need to chant mantras a million times either.
Do you think the people who conquered India, the Mughals and the British and ruled it with an iron fist for a looong time, indulged in all this silly hoopla or did they just march in and do the job and do it good?
Of course, the thousands of gurus there, from Rajneesh Osho to Sai Baba have efficiently taken millions for a ride! But I see one Baba Ramdas trying to do something really useful by threatening to fast to death unless those who govern your place end the cancerous corruption in your lovely country. He must be applauded. One guru trying to do something useful, instead of engaging in useless spiritual mumbo jumbo. But I’m afraid his goal is humanly impossible to achieve in that dirty baksheesh place.
dear Sam,
Your bile is starting to amuse me. You seem a well read person. You also seem a very well scammed person. maybe that explains your attitude.
I want to be supportive of Ally and give her a positive framework to work from. I don’t understand why it needs to stick in your craw.
The way you talk about India shows bigotry and nothing else. Nobody messes with folks in serious spiritual pursuits. Do you know about a sect called digambaras in India. These are “sky clad”. no clothes. Come to my place and Ill show you a naked venus who meditates on the road. Only nobody thinks of her as a Venus. Only a Devi.
In India, If you conduct yourself like a slut, be prepared to be treated like one. behave like a decent individual, you will be treated as one.
India is the best place for meditation. It is the place where it was invented/discovered. Just because we have an ancient culture with amazing legacies does not mean we need to sneer at new age breakthroughs. I consider the concept of positive affirmations coming from a West a key breakthru. For a person who is under a mountain of debt, the first thing to do is believe that they can climb out from under. So great sage, tell me a better way than positive affirmation that reaffirms your self worth, your determination and gives you the future you would want. Then they have to just do it.
Are you such a loser that positive affirmations have no effect on you ? Positive affirmations are seeds that you plant in your subconscious. But they will germinate only in fertile soil. If your subconscious is such a desert that positive affirmations have no effect, I suggest you start looking for the beliefs that are damming up your soul. Then maybe you should consider using the Lefkoe method to eradicate them.
According to me, a good test of whether you are a winner or a loser is by simply testing whether a positive affirmation has any effect on you.
Since you are Christian let me give you a Christian assertion made by Jesus. Jesus came across a lime tree on his travels and for some reason uttered the words “Let no fruits grow on you forever”. And no fruits came up on it. This is an assertion made to a plant which manifested. An assertion carefully crafted, uttered to your own subconscious, will stun you by what it can produce.
Christianity places enormous emphasis on “the will of God”. next they say that God created man in his image. What does that tell you about the will of man ? An assertion properly done is an exercise of the will. Not the will of the puny ego but peculiarly the will of god itself manifests.
for a person who has scatalogical thought processes, even michaelangelos art will seem like shit. You have the right to be sceptic about anything on earth. my only point is you retain the right to criticise and pull down something only if you have examined it for your own self.
I’m not a wannabe anything. I am a sincere seeker who will examine every path, every stone with dispassion, try it on myself and move on. If I need to pay for it, I do without counting cost. If somebody scams you, the blame if any falls on you. You did not do your homework as well as it should have been done. Nobody is perfect, everybody gets scammed. Its not the end of the world. dust yourself off, get off the ground and move on …
I think the saddest thing that can happen is when a person who has been hit by misfortune becomes so blind that he can no longer see possibility or a better state of being. You have to be careful about Greeks carrying gifts, you don’t have to be paranoid. It becomes like an ostritch or a possum. An open invitation for misfortune to strike you again.
Everybody has problems. Some have small ones, others have larger ones. If you trace back to the genesis of such problems it boils down to whatever actions you have done of your own free will. You want examples Weiner, arnold, linsdsay lohan etc. They had everything and they still have everything but peculiarly they have nothing now. Their present is unchanged but their future is compromised.
You need a framework to rebuild or remodel your life. That framework needs to be built in your subconscious. Affirmations can do that. Do you know anything else that can do this ? let us not piss on something just because it is new or comes from a source you dont consider capable enough. had you lived in Galilee when Christ was around, ask yourself, if your thought patterns, your ability to examine the truth and your way of resolving contraditions in dogma, would lead you to crucify Christ ? If you were to ask my opinion almost 80% of all priests would have crucified Christ happily.
I may disagree with you, but I will never paint you as Satan or his minion and close my ears to logic, common sense or close my heart to compassion and love for you. All I say is look at your posts. See the attitude, see the end result.
Going by the kind of behaviour that Chritian, Moslem and Jewish priests exhibit, I wonder if they are taught to believe that anything that is outside the Torah, Bible or Quran is the work of Satan. How they reconcile the Omnipotence of God with the possibility of the Devil’s work existing at the same time seems like the thinking of a 5 year old kid. We in India do not set out to see Satan in everything. We say that in the presence of an omnipotent God, the devil cannot exist even for a single instant. If the devil exists in your frame of things, the god in your frame is a limited god. Not THE GOD.
We are taught that it God who is in everything. Anything new comes, examine it with dispassion, search for the truth in it. If There is truth, follow it else leave it.
When I see the end result of all this discussion and debate, I am actually quite pleased. It gave me an opportunity to think about stuff that I never got around to thinking about. So Sam, it was a pleasure interacting with you. Hope the people reading this blog and its comments get some good out of it.
Kurt, I have never heard of Vernon Howard. Thanks for the heads up. I’d like to see what he has to offer based on your approval ratings. Are there any others like him ? If you could let me know, I’ll be grateful.
Finally, it is not my intention to start religious or theological debates on this forum. So If I have hurt anybody’s sentiments by any of my statements, I apologise for the hurt. I still stand by what I say. If anybody wants to pursue any particular point with me, we can do it by email. mine is thezenpundit@gmail.com.
Thanks Kurt.
That sounds kinda curt. heh
You know, getting into esoteric mysticism can be a labyrinth which can suck one in deeper and deeper and i’m not sure if you end up wiser or just gain the illusion of wisdom.
At this stage, I want to simplify things, not complicate.
Sam,
You might enjoy her work :
THE VOICE OF THE SILENCE
It’s more poetic and compassionate
To me these writings are like a dessert
after you’ve had your meat and potatoes.
I tried to read Madame Blavatsky’s tome many times, but found the rambling work an incoherent bore. She was a fellow traveler with Gurdjieff and Ouspensky.
Yeah, better enjoy a wee dram from a local brewery with dish of fresh venison in Skye. Go to India to meditate if you can avoid being harassed by two-legged big pests. Exotic to the hilt!
As far as i know all esoteric pratices including the major religions taught in their original form – the elimination of the false self or worldly self. I have personally been a student of these practises for many years now and eliminated many of my sufferings that plagued me through my life. once you grasp this knowledge you know the difference between truthful teachings and the scammers.
Of course the Buddhist practise the elimination of all worldly desire and some may be attracted to their methods and rituals, but in todays modern times it is far from the only road to travel.
Gurdjieff and P.D. Ouspensky brought these eastern secrets to the west many years ago which is a fasinating read but long and complicated, caught in the confines of dogma.
I find the most current teacher of esoteric principles and easiest to read is Vernon Howard who wrote several books on this subject for western man and his particular conciousness and they are available in public libraries free! I actually recommend purchasing them because thier is more information than you can take in 21days or 21 months.
Now we have the MLP which is the fast food venue to a peacefull mind and i must say i’m impressed. Morty’s technics actually work and i don’t know if i would call it a more active process, maybe it’s just faster. Truthfully the individual doesn’t do anything but observe and thru awareness applies Morty’s technique of connecting the dots you eliminate those nasty occurrings or what some may call bits of the false self, the mind will dissolve these on it’s own.
My only question is without some background as to what they’re actually doing i.e. performing a deep spiritual act are they going to benifit as much- that i don’t know? I’m certain it can eliminate the useless babble in ones mind and free it for better things.
Only thru my prior work did i see it’s benifits.
Ally, i would think twice about going to the ISLE of SKYE, it’s cold , damp and full of pesky midgies( to meditate). Great place for a holiday and a pint!
,Peace out
Ally, go to the Isle of Sky to meditate. That would be cheaper, safer and far better than going to crazy India.
And affirmations, repeat a 100 times, “I feel terrific” or “every day in every way I feel better and better” as you brush your teeth. See if it works as the pundit affirms.
For him conservative = virtue. That means their women should be seen and not heard, preferably stay home like good little wives pandering to their men who get their rocks off ogling the decidedly unconservative babes shaking their booty in Bollywood spectacles.
Another muddle-headed guru wannabe delving into the dodgy new age buffet for whom Vitale’s Secret and the Lefkoe method are the next best thing after roti and dhal.
Sam,
I don’t have the problems that need his solutions. My problems are more in the social and spiritual realms. So that is the reason I did not go in for the paid stuff. Next thing, I analysed the scripts very thoroughly and am able to write my own scripts which work pretty well. Of course, only on me !
India is of course a British creation just like Pakistan ! No denying that. But what you need to understand that no matter which kingdom or principality you belonged to in the olden days, you still were conscious that you were a part of a vaster nation called Bharat. This notion of a Greater Nationhood is reflected in all our scriptures with this name. Indians don’t call India as India among ourselves. We call it Bharat. Like the Japanese call their nation Nippon among themselves.
The concept is very similar to the concept of Israel among the Jews in the old testament. Of course, Israel also came into being thanks to the British.
We have seccesionist movements in Kashmir and had one in Punjab. These were actively fomented and financed by Pakistan. Just like what happened in Texas and California in the early days thanks to the spanish and the Mexicans.
We have 800 languages in India all much older than 800 years or more, compared to 400 for English. Of course with such a legacy there is bound to be some clash here and there. Add to it 9 major religions with 2 religions who have yet to learn to respect others and obviously you have tensions. add to it economic, geographic, ethnic diversity you have a melting pot that keeps bubbling along. Just because it keeps bubbling doesn’t mean it keeps boiling like magma in a volcano.
You have Neo nazis, KKK, Black brtherhoods so on. Every group has its share of weirdos and whakos with extreme views and positions. So what ? all sane guys just ignore them and move on…. You should do the same.
Sam, I have stayed for months in 50 states of the US. Except Hawaii and Alaska. I have worked in 70 countries in the 27 years of my career. So I talk out of experience that is personal. That statement I made regarding the 10 commandments? It is based on personal experience.
India is not a feral place and never was. We are more conservative than the west and if women come across in thongs and the kind of dresses worn in NY, LA and stuff, they can expect trouble. From the conservatives ( which will be oral) and from the louts (which could become physical).
Dear Sam,
I have read all these books and I would be the first to say that these are fairly accurate portrayals that reflect what goes on. As I said 50% of the country lives on 3750$ a year or below. I did not talk about GDP at all.
the Buddha arrived at Buddism precisely because of the sheer disparity of fortune that he encountered. That still continues. It is nothing new.(for us anyway). The key thing to remember is that India despite this Income disparity and the social evils of sati, caste system etc was still prosperous enough for Isabella of Spain to finance and equip Columbus to discover a shorter way to India ! No other country has attracted so many foriegners in ancient times to invest in finding ways to invest in India.
The reason we are still having the problems we do is because we are still following the British system of governance ! So no thank you to any firangs ruling us again !
Any way this is not a forum for discussing India and its history and shortcomings or glories. What this is about is The Lefkoe Method.
At some point you said that the Secret is a load of bullshit and is a fraud. What I can say is that it is something that is part and parcel of the vedanta and Buddist teachings. If you do what the Secret tell you to do it does lead to prosperity. Only thing is that if you have too much negative karma, you may not realize the prosperity in this life. But it will manifest in one of your other lives down the road.
It is my observation that the Secret plus the Lefkoe Method could really help speed up prosperity coming to your doorstep ! As I say, try it out ! It may give some startling results, if your karma balance allows it !
Ally, I suggest in addition to using the Lefkoe method to eliminate roadblocks, use positive affirmations and religiously apply the exercises given in the Secret to expedite your repayments ! Give it a hundred percent shot. You should see a marked improvement.
Cheers !
India is a British invention, cobbled together by stitching a heap of warring states, riven by ancient linguistic, religious and regional animosities, still boiling, threatening to rend the fragile fake union asunder. How many separatist insurgencies are happening there right now, Mr India Shining, belief-eradication buff?
Zenpundit,
You obviously have not bothered to read all my posts, so your take on me is skewed, just like your skewed, way unrealistic, all-shining, all-dancing take on India.
Did you see my response to Morty’s post on the research on his system? That was reasonable of me, wasn’t it?
If you are gaga over method Morty, that’s fine with me. But make up your mind whether you are into Zen or Vipassana, both admittedly torturous methods, or Method Morty.
You are canny enough to take his free stuff. But you are not going to buy anything from him any time soon, are you?
India can boast of a shining cricket team! That I cheer!
Morty,
I thought I might add something for SAM.
Sam, I do not understand your animus against Morty or his technique.
I have tried just the free portion and that by itself was effective.
I got rid of a number of defects in me by using this technique. It needs a sincere desire to eradicate the belief to make it work. If you or any of your acquantaince have tried it and failed, this probably was the cause.
I practiced Vippassana the central Buddist form of Meditation to eradicate undesirable beliefs. It typically took me almost 10 days with more than 4 hours each day to eradicate a belief.
With Morty’s method, I got the same result in one sitting of 20 minutes. There were some beliefs where it did not happen. I analysed what happened in meditation and I figured out that the script I wrote did not address the root cause of the problem. This belief that I tried to eradicate was a branch of another belief that I was holding even deeper down. I had to go down the various branches till I arrived at the root belief. It took me two sessions with two different scripts to eracdicate that one. But one I did that, every belief dependant on that one, just dropped like dominoes !
You keep refering to karma often. Do you understand what it is ?
Karma is incurred when your intention is harm or injure another being or his endeavors. Morty has given humanity a tool to use to better its situation. It may not be perfect or might have negative impacts on some people. It is not morty’s fault. He is genuinely trying to help people.
Your own attitude is to harm the maximum number of people, starting with Morty. I have yet to see a single constructive remark from you. You want to help people, tell them something useful.
Folks, I am not some salesman for Morty or his method. All I say to you is simple common sense. Try the free stuff that Morty offers. Does it work on you ? If yes, consider investing in his paid stuff. I have not bought it so I cannot vouch for it. His free stuff works for me and I recommend that without reservation.
I saw this link to Buddhism and read the post and I am here. Folks, consider using this method for uplifting yourself spiritually by ridding yourself of beliefs that hold you back from become a better person.
For those of you who wish to continue this conversation with me can email your comments, suggestions, criticisms, arguments etc to thezenpundit@gmail.com.
To be a better human, you have to be willing to accept the reality or the truth. Try whatever method or means you encounter to improve yourself or your situation. If it works, adopt it. Does not work, drop it and move on. Don’t waste your time and effort hanging around something that did not work for you. Get a Life and allow others to get their own !
James, I caught on that you are a pom from the pound sign. Actually, I thought you were accusing me of being sarcastic, but you seem to want to wear the hat. heheh
If Morty’s method worked for you, then good for you, old chap!
One thing I’ll give old Morty. He’s all for free speech. Doesn’t junk or censor my pieces. Nice of him.
I’ll write more, only that I’m just relishing your post, P G Wodehouse!
Mr India Shining,
Get real, man! Of course, there is some good there but I stand by my statement that by and large it’s a feral place. It’s no surprise, really. When people are on desperate survival mode, that’s how they are — heartless, callous, shunting each other aside in the desperate struggle to get by. BTW, forget about GDP. That does not give a true picture because most of the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a bunch of fatcat millionaires and corrupt politicos. Millions get by on less than US$2 a day!
Tell you what? Read my friend Tarun Tejpal’s latest book The Story of my Assassins and read his publication Tehelka and if you want to know about appalling social injustice, read ths writings of Arundhati Roy (yes, she of the God of Small Things) or Aravind Adigar’s White Tiger, which shows India sordid reality. There are many other Indians who show India for what it really is, not the exotic beatific paradise you India Shiners like to project, but more like hell on earth for millions.
You should invite the British back to govern the chaotic place because you certainly can’t! In fact, without English Indians won’t be able to talk to each other, given the many tongues of babel there.
As for equality, try to eradicate the inhuman caste system entrenched there for thousands of years, making some humans sub-human and treated as such. The black slaves of America never had is so bad!
Ally, if you want to experience India in a nicely packaged bubble, it would be OK. But as for experiencing the real India, don’t even think about it. It would be a living nightmare. You’ll need a lot of therapy when you return!
That’s why millions of Indians seek escape from bleak real life in the beautiful fantasies of Bollywood.
And for heaven’s sake, stop self exorticising!
Thanks for that, Morty. I know CBT pretty well and I respect it. I know of NLP and I have no regard for it whatsoever. Freudian therapy I have many quarrels with. Then there is Ekhart Toll, Jungian Therapy, Silva Method, etc which are all iffy, to say the least. If your method is on par, if not better that CBT, I would then have to respect it. I will study your links. I will try to go to the source to get the complete story. You see, I’m a reasonable man, and no damn troll.
James, I’ll get back to you.
I think you’re going to be the biggest method Morty fan, Sam…
Morty,
I am a student of Vedanta and have training in Buddhist thought. I think you have a great technique that I have tried and can say really works.
Just wanted to tell you the ephiphany I had while reading this article. There are a number of illusions that people entertain about themselves that prove really hard for people to overcome in the spiritual sense. Three of the most common being that I am the body, or I am the mind or I am the intellect.
Even though Hindus and Buddhists accept that we are the very Divine clothed in flesh, ego and ignorance, our deepseated belief that we are the body mind or intellect is too deepseated and requires enormous effort to eradicate. Usual methods are yoga, meditation, tantra, chakra activation etc.
The lefkoe Method is worth trying for removing the three illusions. I am going to give it a red hot go today itself.
I suggest you give this mail some prominence so that other folks who are seekers can also try this to rid themselves of these illusions. We can then collate our findings and work out something that will lead to more folks attaining nirvana.
I would like to use this forum to address folks who have been denigrating India and its people.
India is a huge country with one of the highest concentration of humans on the planet. about 50% of the country lives on less than 3750 USD a year.
We have traditions that go back millenia. My family tree can be traced back more than 2600 generations. There are others with even more impressive family trees. There are plenty others who will be hard put tell you the names of their actual parents. We have people who are caucasian looking, to mongoloid to negroid to every admixture known to man. USA has been a melting pot for 200 years. We have been a melting pot for millenia.
We have a population that is a humungous multiple of the US population. even if you take 1% of the population to be the scum of the earth, that 1% is equal to almost the entire population of the USA ! I do not deny that all the things that people have written about. These happen. But know this. The scum in our country are about the same as in your country. but the best in our country far outstrips the best worldwide. If you take the 10 commandments of Jehovah and search for the country with the highest percentage of people who practise it on a daily basis, India will be at the very top.
So if you are a spiritual seeker, there is no better place than India.
If you are a Moslem and you want to be a better Moslem come to India. If you are Christian and want to be a better one, come to India.
You want to be a better human, come to India.
India is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get. (Forrest Gump). It is comepletely different from the Occident so if you come, come with an open mind.
For the lady from the Tyne. It was a pleasure to know that you are teaching yoga and stuff and want to come to India. My the good lord bless you and your quest.
Morty, May the good lord bless you and your efforts. Please explore more of buddhism and vedanta because I can tell you that the Lefkoe method could be really useful for the spiritual growth of people.
Hi,
Instead of trying to eliminate those three beliefs using the Lefkoe Belief Process, put yourself in the creator space using the WAIR? Process. Here is a link to an MP3 of it. http://d3n3f57qjh51zc.cloudfront.net/who-am-i-really-new.mp3
Then observe your thoughts and recognize that you are that which is watching the thoughts, you are not your thoughts. Etc.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks for taking the time to post in such detail. I really appreciate your participation on this blog.
Love, Morty
Morty,
Thanks for the link. I’ll give it a go.
I did not get what you meant by WAIR. Could you please elucidate ?
BRK
Morty,
I read your blog again and got my answer.
But I still feel you should elucidate. Maybe your next blog entry ?
BRK
Hi BRK,
I wrote an entire blog post about the WHo Am I Really? Process. Check it out and let me know if you still have questions. https://www.mortylefkoe.com/get-into-an-altered-state-of-consciousness-in-minutes/
ALos, try the Process itself.
Love, Morty
Ah, Sam, I feel we are softening you up my friend…
OK, I’m not saying you don’t raise some valid points. I’m a healthy skeptic myself, which is why I deliberated over the course for almost six months… the words too good to be true were often playing on my mind. From my experience, what made me actually go for it was the low risk based on the money back guarantee and the hundreds of positive reviews. Now, I admit the websites smack a little of internet marketing, but that’s how they are marketed. Internet marketing works, otherwise it wouldn’t be a good model to use. Unfortunately, snake oil sellers will use the methods to peddle their wares, rip people off and taint anyone who uses the same methods for all eternity.
Secondly, my dealing with Morty have been fairly straight forward, he always responds to my questions and I have no doubt at all that if I wanted a refund I could get one. (I know some money back guarantees make people jump through hoops in the hope that people will get disheartened and give up). I don’t know of any examples of Morty or anyone from his organisation terrorising vulnerable individuals to cheat them out of their money. Also, this blog and others, as you will testify to, don’t delete negative comments quickly so as not to put off naive potential customers… other sites only ever publish positive comments, which is suspect in itself
With regard to association and pushing alternative products, I haven’t really seen this and it doesn’t interest me. I’m not looking to be ‘made whole’ by the personal development industry, I was originally looking to overcome public speaking nerves and thought the larger course would resolve that and also maybe help in other ways, I was painfully shy as a ‘youth’! I base my assessment on the product and on my impression of the person selling and both of those were enough for me to purchase the course.
I’m no ’employee’ of Morty, nor do I sing hosannah at his every word, nor do I think he will bring about world peace, nor do I think the method works for everyone… I don’t think we’re all interconnected, I don’t think the world would be a better place if we only sent loving brain waves around the world, I don’t think anyone ‘deserves’ or ‘attracts’ pain into their lives through their thoughts any more than I think visualising the lotto numbers will make me a millionaire on Saturday… I do believe that if you have a shitty attitude that you’ll make a big deal out of shitty things that only other shitty people will want to hang around with you, so in a sense, yes your attitude determines if your life will be shitty or not.
With regard to the method, in my experience, it helped ME.. a lot. It hasn’t turned me into something I’m not, I don’t bristle with the self confidence of James Bond, but I also don’t get nervous speaking in front of groups, nor do I care much if people view me negatively and generally the little voice we have in our heads that can criticise us has checked out and gone to lunch for the most part. Now that, for me, is great, and well worth the paltry DVD costs (I’ve spent close on £500 on public speaking courses)… I can’t comment on anyone else and what they perceive as the changes, I can’t tell you if it’s a placebo, delusion or a temporary fix, but right now, it feels much like a solution to some (albeit normal) issues that I’ve had my whole life (I’m mid 30’s). For me that’s enough and I can’t speak highly enough about it.
I’m starting to understand where you’re coming from, however, you say that consumers need a feedback mechanism, but correct me if I’m wrong (and I might be) but you don’t sound like a consumer of THESE products… and if that’s the case, where is your complaint? Because it’s similar to other things you’ve come across? Because you have some inside information about Morty and his evil doings? Because the whole process reminds you of something else you’ve seen? Because Joe Vitale once stole your girlfriend?
I’m genuinely intruiged, Sam. I agree that the personal development and self help fields, predominantly because results are subjective and difficult to quantify, means that the field is wide open to snakes, charlatans, evil doers and my personal favourite, acid head hippies… (no I don’t want your healing crystals thank you, nor do I think your diluted essence of nettle with less than one atom of nettle in it will cure my nephews colic). But that doesn’t, for me, negate the benefits that I personally have gotten from the course and hope to run it again to feel even more benefits.
As for Ryan, he is young and impressionable clearly. However, his first comment is that the course has had a profound effect on his life… that’s pretty big. That he’s spent nearly all of his money on the course and 1-2-1 sessions is clearly not a good thing, but Ryan should take responsibility for his own actions. Maybe he’s one of the people the process doesn’t work for, in which case he should ask for his money back and post all over here, and every other Morty page if he doesn’t get it as promised.
Morty does reference a study of his work in the scientific community which provided positive results, however, as it’s due to how someone feels about themselves and their self image, it’s not as easy to quantify as say regrowing hair on bald men (true snake oil salesmen!).
I get where you’re coming from, though, and thanks for explaining a bit more. Yes there was a note of sarcasm, I’m English…. I reserve the right to be sarcastic at any given moment. Oh and my uncle is an ass… and not very well liked, so you’ve got one up on him.
James
That’s good then, Ally. Happy for you. I know that Buddhist parable. Thanks for sharing. You sound like a sweet North-of- England lass. (I knew one closely in my prime.) Stay away from those larger-lout Geordies, especially on football mights. :-)
James,
First off, giving rice bowls was a metaphor for feeding the hungry. If you are picturing me standing on a street corner passing out rice bowls, it would be the wrong picture. I simply help a soup-kitchen type of charity. No big deal. I didn’t mean to come across as a self-righteous do-gooder.
I have, in my time, come across many many New Age solution providers. And you know what? Every single one of them took pains to distance themselves from the New Age camp they were in. But they disparaged New Age, making it a point to disclaim any association.
I’m glad you saw Morty’s pal Vitale’s crappola ‘Secret’ for what it is. And Morty pushes his pal, knowing that he’ll get a commission for links going from his site to Vitale’s mall of wonders.
The last time I was here in Morty’s corner about a year ago I helped a young guy like Ryan. He struck up a personal correspondence with me. Before that Morty desperately tried to get him back under his wing, telling him there was no need for him to speak to me, here on the forum.
How come none of you have anything to say about what people like that comment? This time, I have seen at least three people who were critical of and/or doubtful about method Morty.
BTW, like your uncle, I have taught young people, a bit older than your Uncle’s group. But unlike him, I was genuinely well liked and I was effective.
You are right about one thing: I am a crusader of the kind you described.
We know that in the absence of a good feedback mechanism, the vast majority of disappointed consumers of anything don’t bother to give feedback or express dissatisfaction. They simply walk on, maybe to try the next miracle cure. If Morty does a genuine well structured survey through an independent outfit and proves that a decent percentage of users have been helped by his method, then I would accept it — and move on.
If you see my response to that poor kid Ryan and my plea to Morty, you would not be saying that negativity is seeping out of my pores. I am genuine. And for those who write my name within quotes, my friends do call me Sam. And I don’t need to get off showing off anything. I know who I am, including my faults and limitations.
There, no sarcasm here, is there James?
Hi Sam,
You asked for a “well-structured survey though an independent outfit.”
Here is the citation: Clinical Psychology and Psychotherapy
Clin. Psychol. Psychother. 13, 183–193 (2006)
Published online in Wiley InterScience (www.interscience.wiley.com). DOI: 10.1002/cpp.487
Copyright © 2006 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.
Eliminating Fears: An Intervention
that Permanently Eliminates the
Fear of Public Speaking
Here is an easy link to the complete study: http://www.undoityourself.com/support-files/eliminatingfears.pdf
The independent study concluded: “The evidence strongly suggests that fear of public speaking was virtually eliminated and we propose that it [The Lefkoe Method] holds promise as an intervention that might be effective in treating many other disorders.”
The study was conducted by the University of Arizona and proved that The Lefkoe Method reduced the fear of public speaking from a mean of 7 (1 being no fear at all and 10 being terror) to 1.5, Six months later the mean was still under 2.
We’ve just completed another study that has just been submitted to a peer-reviewed journal that compares The Lefkoe Method to cognitive-behavioral therapy, the gold standard and most researched therapy. TLM reduced stress by over 50% and overall was as effective as CBT, but a lot faster and less expensive.
We intend to do additional research to validate the many hundreds of positive testimonials we have received.
Love, Morty
Hello Morty,
Hear! Hear! Your system seems good, according to the 2006 journal article. I’d like to see the results of the new study. BTW, CBT can also be DIY.
I’ll get off your back now.
Thanks.
Cheers!
Morty,
I have some advice for you. Disassociate yourself from the likes of Joe Vitale, the peddler of The Secret and assorted bunk. Connecting yourself with this snake oil salesman won’t do your cause any good.
Regards, Sam
Actually checked the link to the other post that Sam referenced…. Much more of the same diatribe, trolling by way of discrediting by association, declining the offer to actually try the method, expounding opinions ad of they were fact.
Sam sees himself as an avenger for the common man/woman who is being duped into spending their cash on hokey new age solutions to personal problems. I’m no believer in the Secret, the law of attraction or any of that. I wanted something that was quick and effective and I found it.
I think, Sam, you’re an intelligent person who has a lot of bitterness and probably gets off on showing what you believe are your superior opinions. That’s true by your condescending and patronising manner. Nice of you to take the time out from handing out those bowls of rice by the way.
Now I see you for what you are, I feel sorry for you. The negativity is seeping from your pores, your ‘advice’ is questionable at best and all you’re doing is proving what a bore you can be.
You remind me of an uncle of mine who taught English and would take great pleasure talking down to his students, as if teaching 15 year olds english was the height of intellectual achievement.
Sad really.
Thank you for your concern Sam, and yes Newcastle has some beautiful parts to see. I know the part you mean. I love it here it’s my home.
I understand that you are weary about the money that people spend on ‘scams’ that are sold to vulnerable people and it’s a concern. You’re right Sam, there’s a lot of people out there who prey on the vulnerable.
I just wanted to say what I’ve learnt more than anything is the difference between ‘cost’ and ‘value’. Part of the debt I accrued was through getting an education. I left school at 16 with not many qualifications and returned to education later on in my life – I’m in my late 30’s now. I put 2,000 pound on my credit card a couple of years ago to pay for an MA at Newcastle University and I dropped out half way through as I was teaching at a college part-time and being a new teacher was physically and mentally exhausting – I couldn’t cope with it all.
Spending the 200 dollars on the Morty programme was worth far more value, for me, than the 2000 pound cost I spent on the MA. It’s a personal thing – I know. What I realised was the difference between ‘cost’ and ‘value’. I chose to spend that money.
As I was reading the posts I felt glad in my heart that I can contribute without the burden I once felt at expressing myself. My concerns seem trivial looking at the bigger picture.
For me I was anxious over silly little things such as spelling mistakes and grammatical mistakes, as I was laughed at by a punitive parent when I was little – and now I realise it’s okay to say something stupid and be laughed at – I’m not attached to it anymore.
When I was writing this, no anxiety, no heart palpations, no sleepless night – nothing! This has only occured after I did the Morty programme.
I understand the world is, can be, a dangerous and cruel place and it’s good that Morty allows freedom of speech in his blogs.
I remembered the story of the old monk, I now feel I can come from the same mental place as the old monk! I wanted to share it and I got it from this website:
http://spiritsinharmony.blogspot.com/2008/02/two-monks-carry-woman.html
Two monks, going to a neighbouring monastery, walked side by side in silence. They arrived at a river they had to cross. That season, waters were higher than usual. On the bank, a young woman was hesitating and asked the younger of the two monks for help. He exclaimed, ‘Don’t you see that I am a monk, that I took a vow of chastity?’
‘I require nothing from you that could impede your vow, but simply to help me to cross the river,’ replied the young woman with a little smile.
‘I…not…I can…do nothing for you,’ said the embarrassed young monk.
‘It doesn’t matter,’ said the elderly monk. ‘Climb on my back and we will cross together.’
Having reached the other bank, the old monk put down the young woman who, in return, thanked him with a broad smile. She left her side and both monks continued their route in silence. Close to the monastery, the young monk could not stand it anymore and said, ‘You shouldn’t have carried that person on your back. It’s against our rules.’
‘This young woman needed help and I put her down on the other bank. You didn’t carry her at all, but she is still on your back,’ replied the older monk.
Instead of trying to be clever, Sam, perhaps you can point out how ineffective the lefkoe method is through personal experience instead of attempting to discredit it, for no apparent reason.
Being a man of the world as I’m sure you are, and seeking to understand before judging I assume that you have purchased one of the courses and have not found value from it (alternatively you’re merely expounding an ill informed opinion of something you don’t have experience of in comparison to something that you do – Buddhism).
I’m sure you’re aware that there’s a money back guarantee for any courses that don’t deliver on their promises. Have you asked for a refund? Or have you actually not purchased one?
Interested to know. I find it hard to believe your sneering opinion is based on anything other than personal disappointment and frustration.
Deanna,
I posted an extract from the Wikepedia link on trolls you posted. Why don’t you read the information you post?
It’s not late for me. I’m not in your time zone or your head zone either.
OMG,
Sam, are you really up this late? I’m about to head to bed.
“ad hominem attack” …? are you serious?! Presently I have no clue what that means! Though, I think you’re still off topic (…hmm…very Troll-like) …
…going to bed……….. :-)……….. I’ll ‘Google it’ tomorrow!!!
BTW, could you please provide the reference for your quotes around your quote….“Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers ….”
Thanks,
Deanna
ps I guess ‘all of this was ….’ outside of my field of study…but what degree did you say you have..?…….
PPS
I DO believe you have succeeded in killing this thread. Congratulations! Do you feel proud?
Folks….everyone else, pls ignore this conversation because it is NOT productive to the topic of the blog article.
Do not let “Sam” prevail. That is his goal. To distract you from meaningful conversation.
I suggest ignoring his further comments UNLESS they are actually productive to you. (I will also re-frain).
g’night,
Deanna
Trolls are demographically youth. I’m older than Morty.
For Deanna’s edification: “Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad hominem attack, suggesting a negative motivation.”
Are you engaged in an ad hominem attack?
Hi Ryan,
I think “Sam” is a Troll. I think it’s time to ignore him. …perhaps…
…they are “odd ducks”….it is curious what their true agenda is. (and who pays them for the amount of time they spend on these forums interrupting things.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Deanna
PS …scary to think what ‘sam’ might stand for….
Sam
I’m not sure what your agenda is here, it seems highly suspect. As someone who’s completed the NC course I can give testimony that it’s very effective and provides rapid results. I’m going to run through it again just to fine tune some stuff but I don’t feel I have to because it works. Also there’s testimony of hundreds of people backing up that claim and as you can see from your lame comments, there’s no censorship on any of Morty’s blogs.
In relation to Buddhism, I think Morty’s point is in relation to the similarity of the two in letting go of outcomes and meaning and seeing things just as they are. Personally, I’d rather reach that peaceful place spending a few hours on a course than years in meditative contemplation, but to each their own.
You seem to advocate ‘true’ Buddhist teachings that eliminate negative beliefs yourself which is great, though not sure given your overly negative and judgemental comments that you’re really selling it that well.
Ryan,
Get wise, young man. Morty Method is dodgy! Don’t waste any more money on it. You can find better quality solutions elsewhere. And you are still very young and it’s normal to feel what you are feeling. Don’t try to be perfectionist. You’ll get the hang of the art of living by the by. Nobody lives or dies 100% perfect anyway. Being flawed is the nature of being human. But you need to stop being suckered out of every dollar NOW. Walk away!
Have a heart, Morty. Tell the poor kid the truth and offer him his money back. What you are doing will generate very bad karma for you and Shelley.
Dear Morty,
I will try NC again and I would like to have a session with you.
I know I feel fear when I do things right or perfectly or when I no longer need people, yet I strive to work on everything and want people in my life. I feel a lack of love and mutuality between me and people, like love is secondary to work. I don’t “get” people or their feelings as much and I don’t realize how I affect them or that they do feel anything until they’re dramatically upset. I feel like they’re all made of stone. When I do any type of work I feel like I’m relaying to someone else, even when I’m alone and it’s not that I need someone else, but I don’t feel what I’m doing is important. I feel a great attachment to people (unfortunately for you… haha). When I get close to anything good I want I back off and avoid it and feel there’s nothing left to live for if I have it all… Maybe that’s why I didn’t properly do NC, I’m guessing.
Shelly has tried and I’ve been somewhat impatient…
It just seems like there’s SO MUCH wrong… soo much I have to fix.
I analyze everything before doing it, put off any type of work.
I can’t concentrate on doing anything that involves stress.
I’m controlling and get annoyed.
But I’m quiet as a mouse typically and you’d never know really how I feel. Can’t be myself… oye.. seriously, so much it feels.
It’s like the list goes on and on. Everything! and I mean everything… feels more complicated than it is. That’s my worst issue.
If Shelly could tell you anything about me it’s that I draw things out like this and complicate so much. For that, I’m sorry. She can only help so much and the rest is with me and this is what I do unfortunately.. and I’m sorry.
But anyways, I would like to speak with you if you had time in the future. It may not be too soon, but I would like to.
Ryan
Dear Morty,
First of all, your method is profound and has helped me greatly. I don’t think I’ve been using it the right way, you see, I’m very “tuned out” and although I listened and talked outloud through NC I still felt like I didn’t permanently eliminate the beliefs.
I went through the whole thing and still felt like there was a ton missing. So I scheduled about 5 sessions with your wife Shelly and she helped me feel better! But for some reason I felt a ton missing still. Like a big disconnect.
I finally gained the courage to try the lefkoe method on myself and I feel like a good amount of the time I got it down, but not always. I have a hard time concentrating and I even left a post about how I feel like the harder I try the more fleeting the feeling that I’ve “gained something” is (like I’m almost avoiding it but wanting it at the same time?).
I didn’t mention this to Shelly because we haven’t had another session and honestly… it’s hard to keep spending money for me knowing that I feel a ton missing still. I even went through your money program so it’s not the money as much as it is the feeling of “nothing working” is still there even though I’ve obviously made changes in my life. I spent almost all I had, literally, all of my money… not extra, but all of it.
And so I’m stuck.
I want to know how to really FIND my beliefs and then eliminate them either alone or with you, but if I don’t find them I’m spending all this time and literally all my resources (I’m a 20 year old living with my parents going to school).
Please help me, Morty.. This isn’t painful, but at times it can be and now I can’t NOT see what’s a little funny about my relationships, situations and myself and I want to change it.
Sincerely,
Ryan Arther
Hi Ryan,
I’m sorry that your sessions with Shelly and the NC program didn’t resolve your issues. I can’t tell from your post what problems got resolved and exactly why you still feel there is something missing. It could be that there are just a few more beliefs. Many issues in our lives can have as many as 20-30 beliefs, although some only have 10.
If you wanted to have one session with me, I could look and see if I can figure out why there is still a problem. And I’m not even sure there is a problem, only that you have more beliefs to eliminate. If the NC isn’t working for you, I’m not sure why.
Let me know.
Love,Morty
Hi Morty,
A very good post indeed. I have a little bit of experience with Buddhism. Mostly many of the current belief systems and practices in Buddhism has nothing to do with Buddha or his original teachings. They are spreading like memes. The one biggest pitfall I found in current Buddhist teachings is that of passive attitude towards life. I have seen some people who practiced this passive life style through Vipassana trainings. One thing that anyone can find easily is this – poeple don’t like to be with those who are passive in life. Well, it might have worked for people some 1000 years ago, but modern men can not accommodate passive way of life. We are different than the people 1000 years ago. You can find similar opinion by Bhagvan Rajnish in his books. Most of his methods, although controversial, are intended for active participation in life.
Cheers
Guna
Marty,
you run the risk of offending just over 12 Million practicing member of Nichiren Daishonin’s Buddhism with the SGI (SGI-USA.org). I’ve been a fan of your blog for a while now, but it’s important to recognize that there are many sects of Buddhism, and some of the more “esoteric practices,” as they’re often called, aren’t really Buddhism at all.
Just like in any faith, things run great until people muck things up with mysticism, personal philosophy, etc… The core of the teachings are lost or rendered indecipherable from the rhetoric and showmanship of someone who is often far more entangled in their own greatness than the process of helping others live fulfilling lives, which I believe is the fundamental role of any religion: to add value to people’s daily lives.
Faith is a tricky subject. Hand gestures, isolationism, statues, yoga… the list goes on and on with things that “some person” thought was more important.
Morty,
I like the idea of taking traditional processes and making them applicable and understandable in our modern world.
I have experienced life’s events as a witness and also as a full on participant.
Being the witness doesn’t take as much of a toll on the mind and body though.
Morty, I wish you can comment on difference between your method and the Landmark Education . I can see that your method is base on onthology and you were able to make it simple and effective.
Hi Horacio,
I’m not personally familiar with what Landmark is currently doing. People who have done Landmark and our work say it is very different.
I think we have some similar goals and different methods for getting there. I don’t think they have a technique that enables you to permanently eliminate beliefs.
If anyone else has more information, please let us know.
Love, Morty
Morty, I have done a couple of courses there ( Landmark) and reading some books about ontology, I found the same concept: live is empty and meaningless, and event don’t have any meaning, we create a meaning or interpretation over interpretation. And when we distinguish the ‘story’ that we created from the meaningless event we are left with a profound sensation of freedom and infinite possibilities. I live in the Bay Area, I love to have an opportunity to meet you personally. I love your work. Thanks
Hi Horacio,
We both describe the problem in the same way, but I don’t think Landmark teaches you how to always recognize the difference between reality and the meaning we give it, and then to quickly dissolve the meaning.
We do that in the Lefkoe Occurring Course. In fact, by the end most people have stopped even giving meaning to most events.
Love, Morty
Morty, like I told you in my first comment, you made a system easy to follow. I keep wondering how did you came up to the realization of conceiving your program.
I suspect you participate in the past in EST (training from Werner Erhard http://wernererhardquotes.wordpress.com/t
or something similar.),
I ‘m very impress when I found people that develop programs that impact people’s life like yours. Thanks.
Horacio,
There is a big difference between life is empty and meaningless and events don’t have any meaning.
I do not agree with the first statement, I do agree with the second.
Love, Morty
Morty, thank you for your technique. I’ve found it very helpful. It’s love techniques that have effects that are immediately palpable and verifiable. Your technique is one of them. You literally cannot see, hear, or feel the effect of the old belief within 30 or so minutes. That’s just amazing.
As I was going through you technique, I was thinking to myself, “In a way, this is just like Buddhism!” So I was delighted to see this blog post.
As others have said, I don’t think Buddhism is just navel gazing with regard to beliefs. They do try to dissolve.
You know how you talk about the color of the lemon being inseparable from the lemon? Well, the similar attachment of meaning to events in the world is like that attachment, and that is one of the forms of “ignorance” that Buddhism tries to rectify with knowledge. Not passive knowledge with which you talk about things, but the active kind of knowledge or knowing from experience that your technique creates. :)
Granted, I am not a Buddhist or a specialist on Buddhism, but I would say that your technique is probably very Buddhist a sense.
There’s a book by the Tibetan Buddhist monk Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche (The Joy of Living) that will give you a better sense, I think, of how actively Buddhism dissolves the meaning. If you have the time to read it, I think you’ll find it very enjoyable.
Anyway, thanks for the techniques, Morty. I’ve found them helpful.
I thought this was an open forum, not restricted to Morty groupies, singing hosannahs.
If you want to know why I’m here, go here.
https://www.mortylefkoe.com/attract-money/
Hi Sam,
Actually, this isn’t an Open Forum. It is my blog where I write each week presenting information that I think will be useful to my readers. People who don’t think it is useful generally don’t subscribe.
The comments, for the most part, are from people who are interested in what I have to say, who then contribute to the conversation.
I have the same question Deanna has: If you think my work is so dangerous and nothing new (despite never having tried it) and you think people who are interested in my work are all fools, why do you spend so much time here making everyone else wrong?
Love, Morty
Hi Sam,
You seem not to like the Lefkoe method to self-improvement. Why are you following this thread? Just to offer negative observations to people who do? Just wondering.
And yes, killing female fetuses (abortion) is a major industry. Indian mothers travel from UK to India to destroy their unborn baby girls.
See the movie Matrubhoomi: A Nation Without Women . Not for the faint-hearted but it is gritty Indian reality. They tried to burn the director for sullying India’s good name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AI9r0pnAhs
You will realise the true brutal nature of your exotic spiritual land!
How naive can you be, silly Ann? Thank your lucky stars you didn’t start out as a girl fetus of a poor Indian mother! Even if you did see the light of day, your life would have ended nasty, brutish and short.
Hi Sam,
Everyone going to India will have different experiences and will reach different conclusions. These conclusions will be affected by their previous beliefs as well as their choices during their trip. Only what is exactly observable at any moment is happening in India and nobody can perfectly know that. Both you and Ann are interpreting your experiences from the filter of your own egos, your personal realities.
The moment you will be able to understand why Ann or Morty are interpreting their experiences the way they do, that moment the foundations of your concrete statements in your ego will begin to dissolve. The moment we can understand and love every person every being unconditionally, that moment our egos will have dissolved completely. Try to experience what you have been judging in your mind. That is I think what is about meditation: Surrendering in awareness.
Love,
Erdal
Erdal,
You urgently need to come down to earth from your Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds state, stop parroting spiritual inanities and see the world for what it really is. Start reading good newspapers, watch BBC and the analysis columns for starters. Clear your head of wool and drop the blinkers from your eyes. I write of reality that can kill you!
Hi Sam,
You seem to know what everyone needs, and you seem to know what to say to everyone with great certainty. How are you able to be always right? Please share your wisdom with us so that we can learn from you.
My questions to you are:
1) Who are we?
2) Why do we do what we do?
3) What is love?
4) How do we change our emotional states?
Love,
Erdal
I know what people are generally looking for — happiness. This desire, I think, is universal. Hence its pursuit.
An illustrious pantheon of great minds from Socrates and Descartes to Buddha and Lao Tzu have grappled with your heavy philosophical questions. Check out Plato’s discourses on love or even dip into old Bill Shakes or Brothers Karamazov. There are many others who could shed some light on your existential questions, but Buddhism, I think has some sophisticated answers. That’s why Einstein recommended it, saying:
“Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and the spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity.”
And
“The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism.”
Big endorsement from an intellectual heavyweight. See Albert Einstein, The Human Side.
I think all of you fixated on the “light” prefer to deny that light and shadow are integral elements of the universe and, if we are the microcosm, integral to us. By trying to separate them by fixing our various meanings and beliefs, we create an artificial rift, a dichotomy, a constant good vs bad, light vs dark set up. From what I see happening and from my knowledge of what has happened since year dot, the world is Darwinian, the universe indifferent. But we come up with all kinds of dogmas to make it seem not so. We need that comfort. So we invent our gods to cater to our needs. We need them bad. Every culture invents its gods, based on their cultural template. Eg. The gods of the harsh lands of the Middle East, Jewish Jahweh (originally their war god), the Christianized god, and Allah, the god of the Muslims all mimic a stern Middle Eastern patriarch. The gods of the Australian aborigines arose from their cultural imaginings, and so on. So we get “my god is better than your god”, “my god is good your god is bad”, “my god is the real thing, yours is a fake”, “my god will snuff your god and we are his soldiers marching to do accomplish his work” situation.
People are ugly, beautiful, good and bad. You can deny the shadow all you want, but as Carl Jung nicely explained, the shadow has a way of showing up. I would try to integrate it in a sort of noir et lumiere.
(You should really apply Morty’s method to rid yourselves of these seriously flawed beliefs!)
Hi Sam,
I saw your reply below, but there is no reply button so I am replying here.
You seem to have a significant degree of intellectual understanding about philosophy/religion/life.
You mentioned about integrating the shadow side of our psyche. Eliminating a belief completes the process which starts by us feeling limited by our perception and look for a way to resolve this. Morty’s technique is a way of eliminating beliefs and I have applied it hundreds of times on myself and my friends. My understanding is that, once you eliminate a belief, you have removed the condition you place on the energy of unconditional love available to you to direct in this world. The shadow side is our personal ego that is causing us to experience the pervasive love that is everywhere in a conditioned way.
This ego is within us, but nonetheless an illusion we choose to hold. (we may not be consciously aware of this at all times). We are in fact this Love, that is encompassing everything, and we can only become fully aware of this as long as we can surrender our personal ego, our limited perception of ourselves completely. There is nothing bad about this ego. It is what it is. As long as we keep judging others/life with our mind, as long as we choose to stay within the ego, we prevent the expansion of our awareness to realize our true Self but we are always this Self so whether we realize it or not depends on our choice.
Some people experience this Love (which is deeper than an emotion) more fully because they allow themselves more than other people. It is impossible to understand this Love without experiencing it, solely by intellectual means, just as it is impossible to know what eating an apple is without ever eating one. One can analyze life to death and still allow himself little to experience this love.
That is OK, and that is a part of the totality of experience.
Being allowing of experiences that come within our perception without falling into our egos by staying in the present moment with surrendered awareness helps us gradually dissolve our egos. The seeking of happiness you mentioned is in fact the seeking to experience this unconditional love/to realize ourselves, which we ourselves are blocking from our experience.
Love,
Erdal
I would be very interested to see your answers to these questions (especially you Sam) Here goes:
“What makes us human?
Are we so different from everything else?
Is there anything inside us that makes us truly unique?
Is it the ability to feel love?
Is it the ability to feel pain?
Is it the ability to feel hope?
Is it the ability to make our own choices, accepting our own mistakes?
Am I who I am because I choose to be?
Or am I just a simple combination of random events?
Would you still be the same person if you had not lived your life exactly as you did?
Has every minor element of your life helped to shape who you are today?
Do we have enough control to design the person we want to be?
What is it that makes us choose?
What makes you change?
What makes you human? ”
-aesthetic perfection
(I’ll be notified if you reply)
Anne,
Did you live and travel in an air-conditioned bubble. That’s how relatively affluent Westerners ‘experience’ India. I assure you what was packaged for you is NOT the real India! The real India is a chaotic, heartless place.
Hundreds of thousands of indebted farmers have and are committing suicide. Every year, 500 000 children die of diarrhea. Dowry-related bride burnings are rampant. Corruption and greed rampant. Read the papers and next time, step out and experience the real India. The heartless rich live behind tall walls outside which the dirt poor scavenge. It’s not a nice place, but for you they would know how to create a “wonderful experience”. So that’s what you experience, not what the millions of suffering masses willing to give a kidney to get the hell out of there and into America do!
Silly Western post-hippies still think it’s Shangri-La! Bah!
Just a quick opinion from an avid reader/seeker. I’ve studied Buddhism and the Lefkoe Method for a while now and just found a beautiful bridge between the two. It came from Eckhart Tolle’s The Power of Now. It stresses the importance of realizing that attention to the now by the true self (the self that is Now) dissolves egoic reactions. The Lefkoe Method is useful for “time travel” and traumas that are stuck in the mind and what Tolle would call psychological time. I think this helps many people free up more of their attention and energy to process what is in the Now. And Buddhism isn’t as passive as most folk take it to be. It doesn’t teach that we SHOULD suffer, but how to end suffering. That is the goal that all 3 teachings have in common. Pain is inevitable – suffering optional.
Visiting India and studying the Lefkoe Method as well as Buddhism are the same essential experiences: meditations about who you truly are and what you expect of yourself and the world. I just returned from 9 days in northern India and would visit again in a New Delhi minute. The country and its people offer an exceptional opportunity to grow and learn about yourself as well as them! So do the Lefkoe Method and Buddhism. Listen to the teachers you attract, no matter what the label is on the form, philosophy or practice, and follow your heart.
Ally,
Before you take off to India, read Karma Cola. It’s not the place of your romantic imagination. It’s one of the most feral places on earth. It’s not inhabited by serenely spiritual people.
Actually you don’t need to go anywhere. I’ve been to Newcastle, from where I went to walk a bit along Hadrian’s Wall. It’s a nice enough place. You can find what you are looking for right there. Forget India. It will stress you out big time and you’ll end up worse for the wear!
Some of people you meet there will turn out to be the biggest hucksters on the planet. Beware of India! Take it from me, I know!
Hi Shelley,
As you say ‘it is what it is’…
I have been practising yoga since I was 24 years of age, on and off! Only recently have I become committed to a regular practice and it is through the Ashtanga method and finding a great teacher who gave to me unconditionally when I could hardly lift a finger let alone lift my whole body from the ground. A yoga practice helped get my body strong and allowed me to get back to working a full time job. I was still painfully stressed and unhappy as not wanting to accept the position I was in and job I was doing. Only when I started to do the Morty programme (the two even 3 free streamings) did I start to change my perceptions on life. It’s a personal journey for everyone. I cannot say I’m happy as that is transient…I am more content and more balanced than I’ve ever been. I long to leave my full time job and travel to India, I currently live in Newcastle Upon Tyne, England, but I’m paying off a huge amount of debt that I owe the bank on credit cards.
I do accept where I’m at and I’m using it to write my blog and hopefully help others who are wanting a change. I am also starting some classess – free taster classes to begin with and then just enough to cover costs of the studio I will hire.
I hope to help others who have felt worthless or ‘not good enough’ through my way and that’s through teaching a physical practice of yoga (asana) and through that maybe and it’s only maybe, the doors of the other 8 limbs will be revealed as they were for me.
If you folks buying Morty’s products can only find a good Buddhist teaching center wherever you are in the US and attend some classes (you can make a token donation if you like), you will get the practical solutions you are desperately looking for — tested, bone-fide, superior. No Morty malarkey.
I would recommend them.
http://www.kadampanewyork.org/
This is arguably the best Buddhist teaching for the modern age. They have centers in many locations in the US. Their teachers (they train for 14 years before they are authorized to teach) will guide you and help you overcome many negatives (including how to get rid of negative beliefs) and face life with a joy and confidence that will take you by surprise.
My friends, drink at the pure fountains, instead of buying soda pop from Morty’s ilk.
Hi Morty
This is really interesting! I have studied Buddhism and consider myself Buddhist.
What strikes me as being the most prevalent common factor is the notion of acceptance….in Buddhism we simply accept things for what they are. It just is. Once you get your head around this fact letting go becomes a whole lot easier.
Buddhism teaches us that all life is suffering. As you say, the meaning we attach to meaningless things is what causes our suffering. Understanding this, accepting this and then letting go of this frees us.
Buddhism is based on very simple yet profoundly powerful teachings which are ancient and innate to our universe.
There is no right or wrong only our perception and I think what the Lefkoe Method works to do is to explain that fact, very simply in a way that anyone can understand.
With regard to a previously posted comment, from a Buddhist perspective, it really isn’t our place to judge. What one person perceives as good, one will perceive as bad, this is the whole point!
I have used the Lefkoe Method and it does work, and not just for me but for thousands of others too. It is clearly effective and the fact that there are similarities to Buddhism does not in any way negate Buddhism or even propell the Lefkoe Method to loftier heights, it simply is what it is – the results speak for themselves and therefore does not require argument or contradiction.
Namaste!
Shelley
Hi Shelley,
“All of life is suffering” is a belief.. If you get attached to that idea, then all of life will occur to create suffering for you… I clearly feel that, that belief a misinterpretation of what the Buddha was actually trying to convey. We can eliminate suffering from our lives to the degree we can surrender/release the sufferring we create within our minds. I think it can be more accurate to take what Buddha says as an observation: “Suffering exists.”; not as a belief/not the way life is.
I’m quite new to both Lefkoe and Buddhism. In response to just go to a Buddhist teacher, don’t you also believe that we’re not supposed to be happy or something like that? Life if about suffering. Someone I heard recently said in a speech a little about Buddhism which I liked and then mentioned that in life we’re supposed to suffer. I may not be quoting it accurately but I got the message. Prior to that I had thought Buddhism might be something I’d be interested but not after that. (It’s kind of the same with religions that say we’re sinners ‘no matter what’….I don’t subscribe to that either.) Can you clarify?
Hi Deanna,
Buddhism doesn’t say that we are supposed to suffer, only that we do suffer as a result of the meaning we give to meaningless events. When you stop giving meaning to events, you stop suffering. Buddhism helps you stop giving meaning as does The Lefkoe Method.
Thanks for your question.
Love, Morty
Thank you James, for claryfing. So the Lefkoe Method is for eliminating beliefs. By seeing that the event itselfs is meaningless, we eliminate the belief and the meaning from the event, that we attached to it. Now I get it. Can you use it for strenghting beliefs that you want and also can you control your emotions with the Lefkoe Method?
Thanks for answering so fast and the support
Hi itouch,
You don’t need to “strengthen” the beliefs you want When you believe something, you think it is the truth and it usually is very difficult to shake that belief (it can be eliminated easily with the Lefkoe Belief Process).
You can significantly change your feelings using the Lefkoe Method by eliminating beliefs and conditionings. You also can gain even more control using the Lefkoe Occurring Process that I teach in my Lefkoe Occurring Courses.
Thanks for your interest in my work.
Love, Morty
Thank you Morty, now I get more and more your Method. What I meant by strenghten a belief ,that you dont really believe it but you know if you believe it, its gonna have a good effect on your behaviour and life. I wish I had found it earlier. I will definetly learn it, what would be your take on that practicing it until it becomes automatic????
Thanks Morty
Hi,
I’m not sure what you mean by practicing. Once you eliminate a belief using the Lefkoe belief Process, it usually does not come back. There is nothing to practice.
Have you tried the process yet at http://recreateyourlife.com?
Love,Morty
At last, Morty admits. But how shallow is your understanding of Buddhism!
In your take is “Buddhists say we should just “witness” the stream of thoughts and emotions and not do anything about them. I on the other hand suggest you actively dissolve them. ”
My friend, you can’t be more wrong and simplistic. Buddhism has a sophisticated technology for DISSOLVING all manner of negatives, including negative/false beliefs (delusions). It is not about just naval gazing/observing/stream of consciousness.
If the above is your take, you and Larry Dossey have much to learn about this ultimate science of mind. And you know what? Your method is kid’s play compared to a phenomenally superior system of knowledge – tested for 2 500 years and available for free.
Hi Morty,
I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this post. I started doing your limiting belief system some months ago. I also looked into the Passion Test that you recommended. At the time I was relcutant to spend the money on these two products, however, I followed my intuition and I bought both. Several months later my life has transformed. I am more my authentic self than ever and I have lost some of those dreading feelings of insecurity and worthlessness that I once had. I feel the progamme is not for the faint hearted as after I did some of the limiting belief sessions with you via recorded delivery I did go quite low in my self as things from my past seemed to churn up…I felt very unsafe…but I was determined to feel the fear, accept it, and move through it with faith.
I am now after years of trying staring my own yoga classes, my facebook page is up and my website is being developed. Thank you so much for offering this programme to everyone.
ally patton – yogadood
Hi Ally,
Glad our work has ben so useful and thanks for taking the time to let me know.
Love,Morty
Morty,
I have some advice for you. Disassociate yourself from the likes of Joe Vitale, the peddler of The Secret. Connecting yourself with this snake oil salesman won’t do your cause any good.
Regards, Sam
Hey itouch, the LBP doesn’t replace one meaning with another. It shows you that by realising that a number of different meanings could be attributed to an event, the event in itself HAS no meaning. By realising this at a fundamental level it releases the meaning you gave to the event and the belief evaporates.
There’s no need to replace the negative meaning with a positive one, in many ways neutrality here is the goal. Any meaning given to an event promotes a connection to it, and subsequent similar events reinforce that and ultimately inform our beliefs about ourselves. Rather than struggle via affirmations to change one belief to another, it’s easier to sever the link and see events as meaningless.
Confidence for example isn’t a pumped up state of thinking you’re capable of anything, no matter how difficult, that’s delusional. Confidence is merely the absence of doubt, a calm centredness and a feeling of being in control of yourself. It’s profound, I reccomend the course Natural Confidence to see for yourself
Hi Morty,
I have an question about the Lefkoe Method. Isnt that just replacing the meaning/interpretation of an event in past or now? And how can the belief once you got a new interpretation stick forever with you? Thats what I dont really get. Isnt that why we need affirmations?
Thank you for answering